[EM] Why I think IRV isn't a serious alternative 2

Dave Ketchum davek at clarityconnect.com
Sat Dec 27 20:24:05 PST 2008

My  memory  says you described procedures used in the UK when something was 
needed to add new candidates after nomination deadlines.

I cannot find such tonight, so proceed for US needs without assuming such.


In Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:38:50 -0000 James Gilmour wrote:
> Dave Ketchum  > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 5:47 PM
>>I agree that present write-ins are too informal, nominations are too formal 
>>to cover all needs, and UK thoughts might help us with doing 
>>something to fill the gap.
> Dave, I'm surprised you should think any UK experience could help with this one (as you've suggested in a couple of posts), because
> our systems for public elections are all based on completely formal nomination.  The details differ, for example, as between local
> government elections (local authority councils) and parliamentary elections (at various levels), and as might be expected, there are
> fewer barriers for the former (no fees and no subscribers required).  But since you've asked .............
> So you see, our system is very rigid compared to the "write-in" provisions that are common in many parts of the USA.  ALL candidates
> must be formally nominated, both party candidates and independents, and the names of ALL candidates will be printed on the relevant
> ballot papers.  There is NO provision for a "write-in" of any kind and no provision for "None of the above".  (That, of course, does
> not stop some of the voters from expressing their opinions very clearly on the ballot papers!!)
> Most UK organisations, large and small, from national trade unions to local badminton clubs, would follow essentially the same
> procedures, particularly with regard to making no provision for "write-ins" and requiring written confirmation by each candidate of
> consent to nomination.
> So there you have it  -  but I don't think it provides many (any ?) useful pointers for a robust "write-in" procedure.  "Write-ins"
> are just not part of our political culture, but I do understand and do appreciate that, in their various forms, they are very much
> part of the political culture in the USA.
> James
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