[EM] "Instant-runoff voting" article renamed to, "Ranked-choice voting" on English Wikipedia
Closed Limelike Curves
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Wed Oct 23 09:39:33 PDT 2024
I'm not sure what part of my email you're disagreeing with here. To be
clear, when I say it never "caught on" I just mean most people have never
heard of that name, whereas probably a bare majority of people today have
heard of the term "ranked-choice voting". Honestly, I'd describe anyone who
knew about non-FPP voting systems before 2010 as a voting nerd.
On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 2:30 PM Ralph Suter <RLSuter at aol.com> wrote:
> You're just wrong about this, Closed. I don't know the full history of the
> name IRV and how it became better known as RCV, but in the late '90 and at
> least the first decade of the 2000's, IRV not only "caught on" but was
> widely used in discussions of voting methods, and not just among "voting
> theory circles" and FairVote, which at the time was named the Center for
> Voting and Democracy. You are apparently too young to have first-hand
> knowledge of any of that. I attended the 1992 founding meeting of what is
> now known as FairVote but was originally named Citizens for Proportional
> Representation (CPR). The founding meeting was focused primarily on PR
> rather than single winner/one rep per district reform, which was discussed
> very little at the meeting. That soon changed when shortly after the
> meeting (or maybe shortly before, I'm not certain), former U.S.
> representative and 1980 presidential candidate John Anderson published a
> 1992 article (I think in NY Times or maybe Wash Post) advocating what is
> now known as RCV. Anderson soon joined and became a leader of CPR and
> apparently was very influential in getting it to focus less on PR and more
> on single winner reform and change its name to CVD.
>
> -Ralph Suter
> On 10/18/2024 3:02 PM, election-methods-request at lists.electorama.com
> wrote:
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 10:05:55 -0700
> From: Closed Limelike Curves <closed.limelike.curves at gmail.com> <closed.limelike.curves at gmail.com>
> To: Kristofer Munsterhjelm <km-elmet at munsterhjelm.no> <km-elmet at munsterhjelm.no>
> Cc: Chris Benham <cbenhamau at yahoo.com.au> <cbenhamau at yahoo.com.au>,
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> Subject: Re: [EM] "Instant-runoff voting" article renamed to
> "Ranked-choice voting" on English Wikipedia
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> The Electowiki article covers this. The name IRV is a promotional name
> pushed by FairVote in the early 2000s. The name never really caught on and
> was never used by anyone but FairVote and Wikipedia, because the first
> place to adopt it (San Francisco) renamed it "Ranked-choice voting" because
> they thought the name IRV would confuse people into expecting the results
> to be released "instantly" (immediately after polls closed). The term IRV
> has never seen much widespread use outside voting theory circles and
> FairVote.
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 9:09?AM Kristofer Munsterhjelm <km-elmet at munsterhjelm.no> wrote:
>
>
> On 2024-10-18 17:38, Chris Benham wrote:
>
> I gather that "Instant Runoff Voting" was originally a promotional name
> in the US that after being used for a long time was changed (for some
> reason I forget) to Ranked Choice Voting.
>
> From what I understand, one of the public-facing organizations (might
> have been the LWV) suggested the name because, to the voter, the
> characteristic feature is that you rank the candidates. And then
> FairVote found out that it helped their advocacy, so it stuck.
>
> -km
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