[EM] POLL: Approaching deadline: 2024-05-11 05:15:00 UTC

[Michael Garman]

Very much agreed. I move we postpone the poll indefinitely.

On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 3:13 AM Closed Limelike Curves <
closed.limelike.curves at gmail.com> wrote:

> We could just postpone it.
>
> But  in any case I don't know what this poll is supposed to accomplish.
> 1. The number of methods is so large that everyone's ballot is missing
> half the methods, I presume on an oversight, because there's just no way
> people have that strong of an opinion on
> 2. The pairwise matrix is going to end up so degenerate as to be useless.
> It'll be full of cycles and ties. The number of voters is so small, and
> the number of outcomes is sufficiently large, that the pairwise matrix is
> effectively meaningless and dominated by noise. Every outcome will look
> something like "4-2"—in other words, random noise.
> 3. I think all of us know each other's rough opinions on this topic.
>
> The issue with this poll is it approached the topic as a question of
> voting when it isn't. Good voting methods aren't always good statistical
> methods.
>
> If I had cardinal ballots, I could fit a multilevel hierarchical model and
> possibly get something meaningful out of it. But as is the data here is
> effectively useless.
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:10 PM Kristofer Munsterhjelm <
> km_elmet at t-online.de> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-05-10 23:49, Toby Pereira wrote:
>> > It probably would have been better to have more warning for the
>> > impending end of the poll. I'm not going to have time to give this a
>> > proper go now. I know it has been referred to previously, but with so
>> > many posts on the topic, it's not that easy to find.
>>
>> That's entirely understandable. Sorry about that; in retrospect I should
>> have posted that earlier.
>>
>> -km
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