[EM] POLL: Approaching deadline: 2024-05-11 05:15:00 UTC

[Chris Benham]

Robert,

>
> I am mostly agnostic about WV vs. Margins for defeat strength but I 
> sorta resonate more with margins.

No Margins method was nominated, which is presumably why no-one bothered 
to compare it with Winning Votes. If a lot of voters truncate (which 
they have a perfect right to) Margins becomes completely absurd.

A method  I didn't think to nominate in time (but probably would if we 
did this again) is  Condorcet//Hare.   It is a possible 
political-compromise kludge that is much better than 
Condorcet//Plurality, Margins, and STAR.

You really hate Score that much?

Chris

On 11/05/2024 10:37 am, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
> Okay, here is my ballot.  With Write-In candidates.
>
> 1. Condorcet-Plurality
> 2. MinMax
> 3. Ranked-Pairs
> 4. Schulze
> 5. BTR-IRV
>
> ======== Approval cutoff point
>
> 6. all other Condorcet-consistent methods
>
> N: Hare IRV
> N+1: Approval
> N+2: STAR
> N+3: FPTP
> N+4: Score
>
> I am mostly agnostic about WV vs. Margins for defeat strength but I 
> sorta resonate more with margins. My principal motivation are methods 
> that are good (so it has to be Condorcet) and might have the best 
> chance for adoption in legislation for public elections to government 
> office.
>
>
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> ------ Original message------
> *From: *Michael Ossipoff
> *Date: *Fri, May 10, 2024 20:11
> *To: *Kristofer Munsterhjelm;
> *Cc: *EM;robert bristow-johnson;
> *Subject:*Re: [EM] POLL: Approaching deadline: 2024-05-11 05 
> <tel:2024-05-11 05>:15:00 UTC
>
> But we’ve all posted our ballots, & so, if someone wanted to 
> strategally take advantage of the information about the other ballots, 
> they’ve already got that information anyway.
>
> So there doesn’t seem to be a need to conceal our ballots from 
> eachother to prevent strategic use of them. … because that information 
> is already out.
>
> So why not just say that a person’s most recent posted ballot (which 
> could be what that person has already posted) before the deadline, 
>  counts as that person’s ballot.
>
> If people feel that there hasn’t been enough close-notice about the 
> deadline, should we advance the deadline by 2 days?
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 14:41 Kristofer Munsterhjelm 
> <km_elmet at t-online.de> wrote:
>
>     On 2024-05-10 23 <tel:2024-05-10 23>:37, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
>     > On 2024-05-10 22 <tel:2024-05-10 22>:34, robert bristow-johnson
>     wrote:
>     >>
>     >> I hadn't known that we were actually voting.  I don't need to
>     vote by
>     >> secret ballot, but I don't want to necessarily influence other
>     votes.
>     >>
>     >> Should I just send a ballot to you, Kristofer? How do we do this?
>     >
>     > I think this is the easiest way to do it:
>     >
>     > Send your ballot to me, Michael Ossipoff, or both. Then post it
>     to the
>     > list once the deadline is up. I'll verify that you sent it to me
>     before
>     > the deadline. (And I imagine Michael would do the same if you
>     sent the
>     > ballot to him.)
>
>     I forgot to say: if you change your mind after having sent your
>     ballot,
>     just send your modified ballot later. As long as it's inside the
>     deadline, the last one you submitted is the one that counts.
>
>     -km
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