[EM] No. Condorcet and Hare do not share the same problem with computational complexity and process transparency.

Michael Garman michael.garman at rankthevote.us
Wed Mar 20 14:11:20 PDT 2024


Also, I wonder if anything changed since 2019 to cause more Alaska voters
to rely on mail ballots. Hmmm?

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:09 PM Michael Garman <
michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:

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> From: Michael Garman <michael.garman at rankthevote.us>
> Date: Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [EM] No. Condorcet and Hare do not share the same problem
> with computational complexity and process transparency.
> To: robert bristow-johnson <rbj at audioimagination.com>
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> >> That's a lie.  And you just made it up.
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> I stand corrected. 10 days, not 15. Alaska Stat. §15.20.081(e) and (h)
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> 10 days after a Tuesday is...Friday. Received by the close of business
> Friday. Add in the weekend. Come back on Monday and it's day 13. I can't
> explain the other two days, fine.
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> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:03 PM robert bristow-johnson <
> rbj at audioimagination.com> wrote:
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>> > On 03/20/2024 4:49 PM EDT Michael Garman <michael.garman at rankthevote.us>
>> wrote:
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>> > > IRV is the inferior method and it leaves the impression with some
>> voters and media people that something is hidden for two weeks.
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>> > Again, you’re being disingenuous. The Alaska issue was a problem with
>> mail ballots, which is an entirely different debate.
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>> That's a lie.  And you just made it up.
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>> They had mail-in ballots before RCV.  But they didn't have 15 days of
>> delayed results before RCV.
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>> How long does it take to get all of the ballot data (the ballots
>> themselves, if the polling places are so small that they hand count) from
>> every corner of the state (like Barrow) to the central tabulation location
>> in Juneau?
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>> Now in Maine, it took 10 days to announce results.  First day was just
>> giving the town clerks a day to get their act together.  4 days were spent
>> securely fetching ballots or ballot data.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRV_a0VYuY .
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