[EM] inaccurate Fargo approval voting results

Michael Garman michael.garman at rankthevote.us
Sat Jun 8 13:06:52 PDT 2024


Apologies; I misread your post and that’s not what you said.

The guarantee is that you’ll get to vote that way, not that you’ll always
win.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 4:03 PM Michael Garman <michael.garman at rankthevote.us>
wrote:

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> I’m not affiliated with FV.
>
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> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 4:00 PM robert bristow-johnson <
> rbj at audioimagination.com> wrote:
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>> > On 06/08/2024 3:33 PM EDT Michael Garman <michael.garman at rankthevote.us>
>> wrote:
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>> > I’m just asking that everyone be held to the same standards, Robert.
>>
>> Same here.  You may have noticed that I am also pretty hard on CES and
>> Equal Vote Coalition even though now I am on pretty friendly terms with
>> Nina Taylor (now CEO of CES) and with Arend Castelein and Sass at EVC (or
>> even Rob Richie at FV).
>>
>> But I am hard on any of these three organizations (or their surrogates)
>> when they oversell the product.
>>
>> Even your own organization is lying right outa the box with this:
>>
>> "This means that if their favorite (1st choice) cannot win the election,
>> their vote instantly counts toward their next choice. This type of power
>> helps voters succeed in two kinds of election scenarios:
>> As a voter, with Ranked Choice Voting, you can always vote for the
>> candidate you truly love without the fear of “throwing your vote away”.
>> Even if your favorite is not a front-runner, you have backup choices, so
>> your vote is never wasted, and your voice is always heard."
>>
>> Sure, you can vote that way, but RCV does not guarantee that the voter
>> doesn't shoot themselves in the foot when the actually *do* vote for the
>> candidate they truly love.  They may be well-advised to fear "throwing
>> their vote away."
>>
>> The Condorcet folks don't make the outlandish claims, so our product
>> appears to people to perform less well, but it's really that we don't make
>> outlandish claims.
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>> "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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