[EM] inaccurate Fargo approval voting results

Michael Garman michael.garman at rankthevote.us
Sat Jun 8 13:03:14 PDT 2024


I’m not affiliated with FV.


On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 4:00 PM robert bristow-johnson <
rbj at audioimagination.com> wrote:

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> > On 06/08/2024 3:33 PM EDT Michael Garman <michael.garman at rankthevote.us>
> wrote:
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> > I’m just asking that everyone be held to the same standards, Robert.
>
> Same here.  You may have noticed that I am also pretty hard on CES and
> Equal Vote Coalition even though now I am on pretty friendly terms with
> Nina Taylor (now CEO of CES) and with Arend Castelein and Sass at EVC (or
> even Rob Richie at FV).
>
> But I am hard on any of these three organizations (or their surrogates)
> when they oversell the product.
>
> Even your own organization is lying right outa the box with this:
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> "This means that if their favorite (1st choice) cannot win the election,
> their vote instantly counts toward their next choice. This type of power
> helps voters succeed in two kinds of election scenarios:
> As a voter, with Ranked Choice Voting, you can always vote for the
> candidate you truly love without the fear of “throwing your vote away”.
> Even if your favorite is not a front-runner, you have backup choices, so
> your vote is never wasted, and your voice is always heard."
>
> Sure, you can vote that way, but RCV does not guarantee that the voter
> doesn't shoot themselves in the foot when the actually *do* vote for the
> candidate they truly love.  They may be well-advised to fear "throwing
> their vote away."
>
> The Condorcet folks don't make the outlandish claims, so our product
> appears to people to perform less well, but it's really that we don't make
> outlandish claims.
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