[EM] Condorcet meeting

[Forest Simmons]

Well, that wouldn't work so well if everybody bullet voted.



On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 10:24 AM Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> For practical purposes, this appeals to me the most so far.
>
> But the question remains about how to determine the number N.
>
> Why not just use the number ranked (or approved, as the case may be) on
> the average primary ballot?
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2023, 12:42 PM C.Benham <cbenham at adam.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> I am strongly of the view that the best practical way to narrow down the
>> field of candidates in one big open primary
>> to N candidates should be to just use strict ranking ballots with voters
>> able to rank as many or as few candidates as they like,
>> and just select the IRV (aka STV) last N candidatesI
>>
>
>> I worry that if the use of approval ballots for this purpose is promoted,
>> the powers-that-be won't be interested in anything
>> more complicated than "just select the N most approved candidates"  and
>> (if the election is for an important powerful office)
>> we will be left with N corporatist clones.
>>
>> In say the US presidential election, there is (or can be) quite a bit of
>> time and campaigning between the primary election and
>> the main general election, so I don't think it matters much if candidates
>> without much "approval" in the primary make it on to
>> the ballot for the final general election.
>>
>> Chris Benham
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>> *Forest Simmons* forest.simmons21 at gmail.com
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>> *Sat Aug 26 15:03:20 PDT 2023*
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>> The choice of n should be flexible enough that if two candidates both had
>> more than 70 percent approval, and nobody else got more than 49 percent,
>> then n should be only two.
>>
>> Perhaps every finalist should have at least 71 percent (about root .5) of
>> the approval of the candidate with the most approval opposition to the max
>> approval candidate.
>>
>> That 71 percent parameter is open to adjustment .
>>
>> The idea is that we should admit into the final stage anybody with almost
>> as much approval as Chris Benham's max approval opposition challenger.
>>
>> fws
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