[EM] Method X, bummer

[Forest Simmons]

I strongly approve of this message!

For me the UD challenge is like Climbing Everest barefoot ... can it be
done?

Did Tenzing do it?

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, 6:01 AM Toby Pereira <tdp201b at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Given that you would not have a problem with graded ballots, but the
> problem is that it would be outside Universal/Unrestricted Domain, this
> raises the question of what about UD makes it so important to you in the
> first place?
>
> I think I've said before on here that I think score/graded ballots should
> work very well with a Condorcet method, as long as you have enough grades
> so that voters can make a distinction between enough candidates that they
> are realistically likely to want to. I think it would be easier for the
> voter, since they can grade the candidates in any order they want without
> having to do so in order (and possibly miss one out), and it allows for
> ties in the middle of the ranking rather than just by truncating at the
> end. Voters wouldn't have to worry about the "meaning" of grades because
> they would only be used to generate a preference order, with ties allowed.
> It should also mitigate against the problem of burial. If the grade for a
> candidate is left blank, it would be taken to mean the bottom grade, and
> voters are likely to bottom grade or leave blank all candidates they don't
> really like, rather than having to individually rank them. A ranked ballot
> would likely encourage voters to bury their disliked frontrunner below
> other candidates they dislike or don't care about. With grades a voter
> could still bury this candidate if they wanted, but they wouldn't be
> "nudged" into it by the ballot type, which I think they would be more so
> with a ranked ballot.
>
> Toby
>
> On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 02:12:26 BST, Forest Simmons <
> forest.simmons21 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >Keep in mind that the only purpose of the method, as far as we are
> concerned is to get an agenda order that is both monotone and clone free
> without going outside >of UD.
>
> >If grade ballots or other judgment ballots are preferred, that would suit
> me fine ... but it would be exterior to UD.
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> >fws
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