[EM] MJ for use on wikipedia?

Jameson Quinn jameson.quinn at gmail.com
Fri Sep 28 15:16:19 PDT 2012


2012/9/28 Juho Laatu <juho4880 at yahoo.co.uk>

> On 28.9.2012, at 22.33, Jameson Quinn wrote:
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> 2012/9/28 Juho Laatu <juho4880 at yahoo.co.uk>
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>> Since Wikipedia says in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VOTE that
>> "voting" is used maily to help in building consesus. The polls are thus not
>> expected to be competitive. The final decisions are not made based on the
>> poll results but in a discussion that the polls should help.
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> Please actually read the essay I linked earlier<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Homunq/WP_voting_systems>.
> It begins by acknowledging that consensus discussion is the norm on
> wikipedia, as you say. MJ is proposed specifically for those rare cases
> when that does not work and some decision is necessary (such as the "choice
> of software tool" example you give).
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> I read it and I tried to cover both competitive and non-competitive
> approaches, but I admit that I got too much lost on the non-competitive
> side while your text focused on the competitive part.
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> I understood that as long as we are talking about the "!voting" system we
> are talking about the discussion and consensus driven approach.
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> I didn't study the history of the Ireland and abortion activism cases. I
> wonder if they were cases where people decided to vote on the Wikipedia
> content, or maybe on something else like used tools.
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Both of them are debates centering on article titles. An article can have
only one title, and a title can refer to only one article. Redirects and
disambiguation pages can help reduce the tensions this creates, but there
are cases where the dispute goes too deep, and eventually a vote is called.

So these would fit in the "third level" of your classification, and the
technical issues around titles keep some of the normal mechanisms of
compromise (ie, do both) from working.

Jameson
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