[EM] Fwd: [Offline] IRV debate to RBJ and Mike O

robert bristow-johnson rbj at audioimagination.com
Sun Jan 22 06:33:58 PST 2012

listen guys, i plonked MIKE OSSIPOFF long ago.  except from what you 
repeat, i have no idea what he's been saying.


r b-j                  rbj at audioimagination.com

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

On 1/21/12 10:04 PM, David L Wetzell wrote:
> A word from someone who is more grounded in "real life"...
> dlw
> To: David L Wetzell <wetzelld at gmail.com <mailto:wetzelld at gmail.com>>
> Mr. Wetzell, tell Mr. Ossipuff and the list (1) to look at the article 
> /Multicollinearity and Micronumerosity 
> <http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2005/09/multicollineari.html>/* 
> to see the word in action; and (2) "micronumerosity" is an *English* 
> word, and English is a language chock full of words formed from many 
> other languages, including Greek and Latin.
>   - Ken Bearman
>   * ... which I found merely by Googling "micronumerosity".  As you 
> also wrote, "[I]s EM the true standard for real life or is it biased 
> by virtue of how its members are oft removed from the world of real 
> life activism?" ... and dictionaries.
> On 1/21/2012 2:39 PM, David L Wetzell wrote:
>>     Dave says:
>>     It's called the problem of micronumerosity.
>>     MO:Nonsense. That isn't a descriptive name. No doubt anything is
>>     called by different names by
>>     different people. The problem referred to is best known, well
>>     known, as the spoiler problem, which is also an incomparably
>>     better descriptive (if less pretentious) term. Maybe IRV's
>>     spoiler problem is called "the problem of micronumerosity" by the
>>     same people (or person?) who use your other pretentiously
>>     pseudoscientific language.
>> dlw:  Micronumerosity is not nonsense.  it may be better known as the 
>> "Law of Small Numbers 
>> <https://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22the+law+of+small+numbers%22>", 
>> which says people come to decisions based on too small of a sample. 
>>  The "negative" effects of the possibility of a non-CW winner in an 
>> IRV-ish election can and should be observed on the basis of many 
>> elections,not two...
>>     The use of "micronumerosity" reveals an ignorance of word-origin:
>>     The first part of it is Greek, and the last part of it is Latin.
>> Like there was never any historic influence between the Greeks and 
>> Rome?  They both were affected by the cultural imports of Pythagoras 
>> <https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=riedweg+pythagoras#pq=riedweg+pythagoras&hl=en&tok=N4J8peRbtZMrgOHX890Tfg&cp=47&gs_id=l&xhr=t&q=pythagoras+his+life+teaching+and+influence+by+christoph+riedweg&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=%22Pythagoras:+his+life,+teaching,+and+influence%22&aq=0v&aqi=g-v4&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=1a6a6fc03027a1ea&biw=1490&bih=905> from 
>> his travels abroad.   And the word is not my own...

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