[EM] More non-altruistic attacks on IRV usage.

[Jameson Quinn]

I absolutely agree. We should not waste energy fighting over which election
system is the ideal. For instance, if we are given the opportunity to sign
a statement which clearly states some of the problems with the current
system and supports several solutions we believe would help, including
giving weak support to the solutions we consider best, we should sign it,
not waste our energy criticizing the precise levels of support it gives to
the various options.

The statement is supportive of PR, and it also clearly says that IRV has
advantages over plurality.

Jameson

2011/11/23 David L Wetzell <wetzelld at gmail.com>

> The variations in "x", particularly among low-info voters as we
> predominantly have in the USA, are too small to put a lot of time/energy
> into trying to get it perfect.  It just lowers the p because of the
> proliferation of election rules trying to become numero uno.
>
> But how else do we make "more local" elections become  competitive and
> interesting than thru the use of multi-winner PR elections?
>
> dlw
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>> If I've read you correctly here, it seems to me that you should sign
>>>> the statement. You agree with everything it says, even if you wish it said
>>>> some other things. And if you're truly being open-minded about this, you
>>>> will want to avoid the circular logic involved in not signing. ("I won't
>>>> sign it because it doesn't have wide enough support.")
>>>>
>>>
>>> dlw: Ah, but I can't support giving a lot of attention to single-winner
>>> reforms when the empirical evidence suggests that it's the mix of
>>> multi-winner and single-winner that is of far greater import.
>>>
>>>
>> Seriously? You won't eat our chips and fish, because that's the wrong way
>> around?
>>
>> Jameson
>>
>
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