[EM] MTA vs. MCA (was "An ABE solution")
fsimmons at pcc.edu
fsimmons at pcc.edu
Mon Nov 21 16:17:33 PST 2011
Chris,
I like this generalization!
Forest
----- Original Message -----
From: "C.Benham"
Date: Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:04 am
Subject: MTA vs. MCA (was "An ABE solution")
To: em , Forest W Simmons , MIKE OSSIPOFF , "Dr Douglas R. Woodall"
>
> Forest Simmons wrote (17 Nov 2011):
>
> MTA vs. MCA
>
> I like MTA better than MCA because in the case where they differ
> (two or
> more
> candidates with majorities of top preferences) the MCA decision
> is made
> only by
> the voters whose ballots already had the effect of getting the
> ”finalists” into
> the final round, while the MTA decision reaches for broader support.
> Because of this, in MTA there is less incentive to top rate a
> lesser
> evil. If
> you don’t believe the fake polls about how hot the lesser evil
> is, you
> can take
> a wait and see attitude by voting her in the middle slot. If it
> turns
> out that
> she did end up as a finalist (against the greater evil) then
> your ballot
> will
> give her full support in the final round.
>
>
>
> I buy this. I agree that MTA is a bit better than MCA. Well done Mike.
>
> * Voters submit 3-slot ratings ballots, default rating is Bottom
> signifying least
> preferred and not approved. Top-rating signifies most preferred
> and
> approved.
> Middle-rating also signifies approval.
>
> If any candidates are Top-rated on more than half the ballots,
> elect the
> one of
> these with the most approval.
>
> Otherwise elect the most approved candidate.*
>
> A slight marketing problem could be that the difference between
> this and MCA
> (and also between those and a third possible similar method: the
> TR
> winner wins if
> s/he has majority approval, otherwise the most approved
> candidate wins)
> could
> to some members of the public appear to be quite arbitrary and
> unimportant.
> Also of course MTA is little bit more complex to count than MCA.
> But on
> the positive
> side, it has just occurred to me that it would work better than
> MCA
> extended to using
> 4-slot ballots (with as with 3 slots, any rating above the
> bottom-most
> slot is interpreted
> as approval).
>
> I suppose by the same reasoning we could improve ER-
> Bucklin(whole),
> which has
> been given the briefer and quite apt new name by Mike O. of
> "ABucklin".
> My stab at defining the so improved version:
>
> *Voters submit ranking ballots, equal-ranking and truncation
> allowed.
> Ranked (i.e.not
> truncated) candidates are considered to be approved.
>
> Rankings are interpreted as ratings thus: candidates ranked
> below no
> others are in the top
> ratings slot. Those with x candidates ranked above them are in
> (x-1)th.
> ratings slot from
> the top. (So A=B>D is interpreted as A and B in top slot, second-
> highest
> slot empty,
> D in third-highest slot).
>
> Say the ratings slots are labelled from highest (signifying most
> preferred) down as alphabetical
> grades A, B, C, D etc.
>
> If any candidates are graded A on more than half the ballots
> then elect
> the most approved one
> of these.
>
> Otherwise if any candidates are graded A or B on more than half
> the
> ballots then elect the most
> approved one of these.
>
> Otherwise if any candidates are graded A or B or C on more than
> half the
> ballots then elect the
> most approved one of these.
>
> Continue in this vein considering the next lowest grade each
> round until
> there is a winner, or if
> that fails then elect the most approved candidate.*
>
> I think IBIFA is still quite a lot better than any of these
> methods, but
> it is more complicated.
> IBIFA has a less strong truncation incentive and the IBIFA
> winner will
> never be pairwise-beaten
> by the winner of any of these methods.
>
> Chris Benham
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