[EM] PR election results

Jeffrey O'Neill jeff.oneill at openstv.org
Mon Nov 21 06:25:53 PST 2011


Yes, to buy the OpenSTV software you need to pay $5.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:14 AM, David L Wetzell <wetzelld at gmail.com> wrote:

> a las, I had trouble accessing the vote outcomes.
> I need to purchase the software, right?
>
> dlw
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Jeffrey O'Neill <jeff.oneill at openstv.org>wrote:
>
>> OpenSTV can't do this automatically, but since the ballots are available
>> here:
>>     http://www.opavote.org/vote?ekey=agNzdHZyEAsSCEVsZWN0aW9uGJTHHww
>> you can do it manually:
>> (1) edit the ballots to keep only the top 3 and do AV to get the
>> nominations.
>> (2) use the unedited ballots, withdraw candidates who didn't get
>> nominated, and count with IRV.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:03 AM, David L Wetzell <wetzelld at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering if Jeff O'Neill could illustrate the IRV3/AV3 approach
>>> by counting only people's top 3 rankings of PR methods and treating the
>>> rankings as approval votes in a first stage to get three finalists and then
>>> doing IRV in the second stage?
>>>
>>> I voted closed list PR as my 1st, but I want to clarify that I think the
>>> valuation of election rules should be contextual.  I value the use of
>>> 3-seat LR Hare in "more local" elections that don't typically command very
>>> much voter interest.  In a 3-seat LR Hare, election, there's fewer
>>> candidates since there's only one per party, so there's fewer voices vying
>>> for voter attention.  And if folks are less likely to do their homework to
>>> get reasonable rankings of the candidates then it'd be better to give them
>>> only one vote.
>>>
>>> dlw
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Jeffrey O'Neill" <jeff.oneill at openstv.org>
>>> To: election-methods-electorama.com at electorama.com
>>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:13:57 -0500
>>> Subject: [EM] Results of poll for favorite multi-winner voting system
>>>
>>> The results for the multi-winner voting system poll are in. Only 15
>>> people voted, but the results are interesting nonetheless. The votes were
>>> counted using instant runoff voting, Condorcet, and the Borda count.
>>> Instant Runoff Voting
>>>
>>> Not surprisingly, Meek STV was the runaway winner, and WIGM STV was a
>>> solid second place. I do find it interesting that some people prefer WIGM
>>> STV to Meek STV. Meek is clearly better than WIGM in terms of the quality
>>> of the proportional representation, but apparently some people find the
>>> simplicity of WIGM more important.
>>>
>>> Open list PR was in third although the one voter for closed list PR had
>>> Meek as the next choice. Because of the small number of voters we can't
>>> read much into this though.
>>> Condorcet
>>>
>>> All three STV candidates did well as did open list PR. I find it
>>> surprising that cumulative voting and limited voting did so poorly since
>>> these two methods provide reasonable proportional representation and are
>>> also very easy to count. Approval voting did not do well, likely because it
>>> does not provide good proportional representation. Plurality at-large
>>> voting was last on every ballot except that it beat mixed member on one
>>> ballot.
>>> Borda Count
>>>
>>> The three STV candidates again did very well as well as open list PR.
>>> I'm surprised that open list PR did so much better than closed list PR as I
>>> don't find the differences between the two that significant.
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> This was a more difficult poll to run since there are many factors to
>>> consider in selecting a multi-winner voting system and any particular
>>> system may be good in some situations but not in others. I personally
>>> believe that STV, and especially Meek STV, is a good choice in many
>>> situations, and many others seem to agree.
>>>
>>> Thank you for participating in these polls, and feel free to do your own
>>> polls at opavote.org or to contact me with suggestions for future polls.
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Counting votes using Instant Runoff Voting.
>>>
>>>  R|Open l|Closed|Mixed |Cumula|Limite|Plural|Meek S|WIGM S|Other |Approv|Exhaus
>>>   |ist PR| list |member|tive v|d voti|ity at|TV    |TV (eg|STV   |al vot|ted
>>>   |      |PR    | PR   |oting |ng    |-large|      |, Scot|      |ing   |
>>>   |      |      |      |      |      | votin|      |tish S|      |      |
>>>   |      |      |      |      |      |g     |      |TV)   |      |      |
>>> ===============================================================================
>>>  1|     1|     1|     1|     1|     0|     0|     6|     3|     1|     1|     0
>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   | Count of first choices.
>>> ===============================================================================
>>>  2|     1|     1|     1|     1|      |      |     6|     3|     1|     1|     0
>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   | Count after eliminating Limited voting and Plurality at-large voting and
>>>   | transferring votes. Since this is the first elimination round, all
>>>   | candidates without any votes are eliminated.
>>> ===============================================================================
>>>  3|     2|     1|      |     1|      |      |     6|     3|     1|     1|     0
>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   | Count after eliminating Mixed member PR and transferring votes. Candidates
>>>   | Open list PR, Closed list PR, Mixed member PR, Cumulative voting, Other
>>>   | STV, and Approval voting were tied when choosing candidates to eliminate.
>>>   | Candidate Mixed member PR was chosen by breaking the tie randomly.
>>> ===============================================================================
>>>  4|     2|     1|      |     1|      |      |     7|     3|      |     1|     0
>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   | Count after eliminating Other STV and transferring votes. Candidates Closed
>>>   | list PR, Cumulative voting, Other STV, and Approval voting were tied when
>>>   | choosing candidates to eliminate. Candidate Other STV was chosen by
>>>   | breaking the tie randomly.
>>> ===============================================================================
>>>  5|     2|     1|      |     1|      |      |     7|     3|      |      |     1
>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   | Count after eliminating Approval voting and transferring votes. Candidates
>>>   | Closed list PR, Cumulative voting, and Approval voting were tied when
>>>   | choosing candidates to eliminate. Candidate Approval voting was chosen by
>>>   | breaking the tie randomly.
>>> ===============================================================================
>>>  6|     2|      |      |     1|      |      |     8|     3|      |      |     1
>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   | Count after eliminating Closed list PR and transferring votes. Candidates
>>>   | Closed list PR and Cumulative voting were tied when choosing candidates to
>>>   | eliminate. Candidate Closed list PR was chosen by breaking the tie
>>>   | randomly.
>>> ===============================================================================
>>>  7|     2|      |      |      |      |      |     8|     3|      |      |     2
>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   | Count after eliminating Cumulative voting and transferring votes.
>>> ===============================================================================
>>>  8|      |      |      |      |      |      |     9|     3|      |      |     3
>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   | Count after eliminating Open list PR and transferring votes. Candidate Meek
>>>   | STV is elected.
>>>
>>> Winner is Meek STV.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Counting votes using Condorcet Voting.
>>>
>>> Pairwise Comparison Matrix:
>>>
>>>     |Open|Clos|Mixe|Cumu|Limi|Plur|Meek|WIGM|Othe|Appr
>>> ----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----
>>> Open|   0|  12|  10|  13|  12|  13|   3|   4|   5|  13
>>> Clos|   1|   0|   3|   9|   8|  10|   3|   2|   2|   8
>>> Mixe|   4|   9|   0|   9|   9|  11|   3|   2|   2|  10
>>> Cumu|   1|   2|   3|   0|   8|  10|   1|   1|   1|   8
>>> Limi|   1|   2|   3|   2|   0|   9|   0|   0|   0|   4
>>> Plur|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0
>>> Meek|  10|   9|  10|  11|  11|  11|   0|   9|   8|  11
>>> WIGM|   9|  10|  11|  12|  12|  12|   3|   0|   8|  12
>>> Othe|   8|  10|  11|  12|  12|  12|   4|   4|   0|  12
>>> Appr|   2|   4|   3|   3|   7|   9|   2|   2|   2|   0
>>>
>>> Smith Set: Meek STV
>>>
>>> No completion necessary since the Smith set has just one candidate.
>>> Winner is Meek STV.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Counting votes using Approval Voting.
>>>
>>>                   Candidate | Count
>>> ===================================
>>>                Open list PR |    13
>>>              Closed list PR |    10
>>>             Mixed member PR |    12
>>>           Cumulative voting |    10
>>>              Limited voting |     9
>>>   Plurality at-large voting |     6
>>>                    Meek STV |    11
>>> WIGM STV (eg, Scottish STV) |    12
>>>                   Other STV |    12
>>>             Approval voting |     9
>>>                   Exhausted |     0
>>>
>>> Count of all approvals.
>>>
>>> Winner is Open list PR.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Counting votes using Borda Count.
>>>
>>>                   Candidate | Count
>>> ===================================
>>>                Open list PR |    85
>>>              Closed list PR |    46
>>>             Mixed member PR |    59
>>>           Cumulative voting |    35
>>>              Limited voting |    21
>>>   Plurality at-large voting |     1
>>>                    Meek STV |    90
>>> WIGM STV (eg, Scottish STV) |    89
>>>                   Other STV |    85
>>>             Approval voting |    34
>>>                   Exhausted |   130
>>>
>>> Borda count totals.
>>>
>>> Winner is Meek STV.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:43 PM, <
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>>>>   1. Markus: Re: Beatpath as a proposal in the U.S. (MIKE OSSIPOFF)
>>>>   2. Refinements to definition of voting x over y (MIKE OSSIPOFF)
>>>>   3. Results of poll for favorite multi-winner voting system
>>>>      (Jeffrey O'Neill)
>>>>   4. TTPD,TR (an FBC complying  ABE solution?) (C.Benham)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: MIKE OSSIPOFF <nkklrp at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: <election-methods at electorama.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:57:52 +0000
>>>> Subject: [EM] Markus: Re: Beatpath as a proposal in the U.S.
>>>>  Markus:
>>>>
>>>> You wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Schulze method is currently used by more than
>>>> 50 organizations with more than 70,000 members in
>>>> total.
>>>>
>>>> [endquote]
>>>>
>>>> Organizations aren't the general public. Certainly the fancier Condorcet
>>>> methods have been adopted by some organizations (and rejected by others
>>>> due to complexity). That doesn't mean that the person on the
>>>> streetcorner
>>>> accepts them.
>>>>
>>>> The requirements for a public proposal are entirely different than for
>>>> some organizations.
>>>>
>>>> Also, it depends on whether a particular country's "public" is already
>>>> familiar with
>>>> electoral systems more complicated than Plurality.
>>>>
>>>> You continued:
>>>>
>>>> Of all Condorcet methods, that are currently discussed,
>>>> the Schulze method is that method that has the best
>>>> chances of getting adopted.
>>>>
>>>> [endquote]
>>>>
>>>> Methods that meet Condorcet's Criterion fail FBC.
>>>>
>>>> I've told why FBC is necessary for the U.S.
>>>>
>>>> Aside from that, for the above-stated reasons, Beatpath has far less
>>>> chance of adoption in the U.S
>>>> than MTA or Approval.
>>>>
>>>>  ...Or even ABucklin. Bucklin was adopted, and used to be used, by some
>>>> U.S. cities or counties.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Ossipoff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: MIKE OSSIPOFF <nkklrp at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: <election-methods at electorama.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:47:07 +0000
>>>> Subject: [EM] Refinements to definition of voting x over y
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My definition of voting one x over y was:
>>>>
>>>> You're voting x over y if switching x and y on your ballot is more
>>>> likely to change the winnner from x to y than from y to x.
>>>>
>>>> [end of definition of voting x over y]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I should add the clause "...if there is no information about other
>>>> voters' ballots."
>>>>
>>>> Of course that isn't a problem if "more likely" is defined or replaced
>>>> by "consistent with more possible configurations
>>>> of other voters' ballots".
>>>>
>>>> If there's any question of what "switching x and y on your ballot"
>>>> means, it could be changed to "switching the _names
>>>> of_ x and y on your ballot", or "voting x exactly as you were voting y,
>>>> and voting y exactly as you were votinlg x".
>>>>
>>>> Mike Ossipoff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: "Jeffrey O'Neill" <jeff.oneill at openstv.org>
>>>> To: election-methods-electorama.com at electorama.com
>>>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:13:57 -0500
>>>> Subject: [EM] Results of poll for favorite multi-winner voting system
>>>>
>>>> The results for the multi-winner voting system poll are in. Only 15
>>>> people voted, but the results are interesting nonetheless. The votes were
>>>> counted using instant runoff voting, Condorcet, and the Borda count.
>>>> Instant Runoff Voting
>>>>
>>>> Not surprisingly, Meek STV was the runaway winner, and WIGM STV was a
>>>> solid second place. I do find it interesting that some people prefer WIGM
>>>> STV to Meek STV. Meek is clearly better than WIGM in terms of the quality
>>>> of the proportional representation, but apparently some people find the
>>>> simplicity of WIGM more important.
>>>>
>>>> Open list PR was in third although the one voter for closed list PR had
>>>> Meek as the next choice. Because of the small number of voters we can't
>>>> read much into this though.
>>>> Condorcet
>>>>
>>>> All three STV candidates did well as did open list PR. I find it
>>>> surprising that cumulative voting and limited voting did so poorly since
>>>> these two methods provide reasonable proportional representation and are
>>>> also very easy to count. Approval voting did not do well, likely because it
>>>> does not provide good proportional representation. Plurality at-large
>>>> voting was last on every ballot except that it beat mixed member on one
>>>> ballot.
>>>> Borda Count
>>>>
>>>> The three STV candidates again did very well as well as open list PR.
>>>> I'm surprised that open list PR did so much better than closed list PR as I
>>>> don't find the differences between the two that significant.
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> This was a more difficult poll to run since there are many factors to
>>>> consider in selecting a multi-winner voting system and any particular
>>>> system may be good in some situations but not in others. I personally
>>>> believe that STV, and especially Meek STV, is a good choice in many
>>>> situations, and many others seem to agree.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for participating in these polls, and feel free to do your
>>>> own polls at opavote.org or to contact me with suggestions for future
>>>> polls.
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Counting votes using Instant Runoff Voting.
>>>>
>>>>  R|Open l|Closed|Mixed |Cumula|Limite|Plural|Meek S|WIGM S|Other |Approv|Exhaus
>>>>   |ist PR| list |member|tive v|d voti|ity at|TV    |TV (eg|STV   |al vot|ted
>>>>   |      |PR    | PR   |oting |ng    |-large|      |, Scot|      |ing   |
>>>>   |      |      |      |      |      | votin|      |tish S|      |      |
>>>>   |      |      |      |      |      |g     |      |TV)   |      |      |
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>  1|     1|     1|     1|     1|     0|     0|     6|     3|     1|     1|     0
>>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>   | Count of first choices.
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>  2|     1|     1|     1|     1|      |      |     6|     3|     1|     1|     0
>>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>   | Count after eliminating Limited voting and Plurality at-large voting and
>>>>   | transferring votes. Since this is the first elimination round, all
>>>>   | candidates without any votes are eliminated.
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>  3|     2|     1|      |     1|      |      |     6|     3|     1|     1|     0
>>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>   | Count after eliminating Mixed member PR and transferring votes. Candidates
>>>>   | Open list PR, Closed list PR, Mixed member PR, Cumulative voting, Other
>>>>   | STV, and Approval voting were tied when choosing candidates to eliminate.
>>>>   | Candidate Mixed member PR was chosen by breaking the tie randomly.
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>  4|     2|     1|      |     1|      |      |     7|     3|      |     1|     0
>>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>   | Count after eliminating Other STV and transferring votes. Candidates Closed
>>>>   | list PR, Cumulative voting, Other STV, and Approval voting were tied when
>>>>   | choosing candidates to eliminate. Candidate Other STV was chosen by
>>>>   | breaking the tie randomly.
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>  5|     2|     1|      |     1|      |      |     7|     3|      |      |     1
>>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>   | Count after eliminating Approval voting and transferring votes. Candidates
>>>>   | Closed list PR, Cumulative voting, and Approval voting were tied when
>>>>   | choosing candidates to eliminate. Candidate Approval voting was chosen by
>>>>   | breaking the tie randomly.
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>  6|     2|      |      |     1|      |      |     8|     3|      |      |     1
>>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>   | Count after eliminating Closed list PR and transferring votes. Candidates
>>>>   | Closed list PR and Cumulative voting were tied when choosing candidates to
>>>>   | eliminate. Candidate Closed list PR was chosen by breaking the tie
>>>>   | randomly.
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>  7|     2|      |      |      |      |      |     8|     3|      |      |     2
>>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>   | Count after eliminating Cumulative voting and transferring votes.
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>  8|      |      |      |      |      |      |     9|     3|      |      |     3
>>>>   |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>   | Count after eliminating Open list PR and transferring votes. Candidate Meek
>>>>   | STV is elected.
>>>>
>>>> Winner is Meek STV.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Counting votes using Condorcet Voting.
>>>>
>>>> Pairwise Comparison Matrix:
>>>>
>>>>     |Open|Clos|Mixe|Cumu|Limi|Plur|Meek|WIGM|Othe|Appr
>>>> ----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----
>>>> Open|   0|  12|  10|  13|  12|  13|   3|   4|   5|  13
>>>> Clos|   1|   0|   3|   9|   8|  10|   3|   2|   2|   8
>>>> Mixe|   4|   9|   0|   9|   9|  11|   3|   2|   2|  10
>>>> Cumu|   1|   2|   3|   0|   8|  10|   1|   1|   1|   8
>>>> Limi|   1|   2|   3|   2|   0|   9|   0|   0|   0|   4
>>>> Plur|   0|   0|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0|   0
>>>> Meek|  10|   9|  10|  11|  11|  11|   0|   9|   8|  11
>>>> WIGM|   9|  10|  11|  12|  12|  12|   3|   0|   8|  12
>>>> Othe|   8|  10|  11|  12|  12|  12|   4|   4|   0|  12
>>>> Appr|   2|   4|   3|   3|   7|   9|   2|   2|   2|   0
>>>>
>>>> Smith Set: Meek STV
>>>>
>>>> No completion necessary since the Smith set has just one candidate.
>>>> Winner is Meek STV.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Counting votes using Approval Voting.
>>>>
>>>>                   Candidate | Count
>>>> ===================================
>>>>                Open list PR |    13
>>>>              Closed list PR |    10
>>>>             Mixed member PR |    12
>>>>           Cumulative voting |    10
>>>>              Limited voting |     9
>>>>   Plurality at-large voting |     6
>>>>                    Meek STV |    11
>>>> WIGM STV (eg, Scottish STV) |    12
>>>>                   Other STV |    12
>>>>             Approval voting |     9
>>>>                   Exhausted |     0
>>>>
>>>> Count of all approvals.
>>>>
>>>> Winner is Open list PR.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Counting votes using Borda Count.
>>>>
>>>>                   Candidate | Count
>>>> ===================================
>>>>                Open list PR |    85
>>>>              Closed list PR |    46
>>>>             Mixed member PR |    59
>>>>           Cumulative voting |    35
>>>>              Limited voting |    21
>>>>   Plurality at-large voting |     1
>>>>                    Meek STV |    90
>>>> WIGM STV (eg, Scottish STV) |    89
>>>>                   Other STV |    85
>>>>             Approval voting |    34
>>>>                   Exhausted |   130
>>>>
>>>> Borda count totals.
>>>>
>>>> Winner is Meek STV.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>> OpenSTV -- Software for counting STV and ranked-choice voting
>>>> OpaVote -- Online elections for ranked-choice voting
>>>> http://www.OpenSTV.org
>>>> http://www.OpaVote.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: "C.Benham" <cbenhamau at yahoo.com.au>
>>>> To: em <election-methods at electorama.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:13:22 +1030
>>>> Subject: [EM] TTPD,TR (an FBC complying ABE solution?)
>>>>
>>>> Mike Ossipoff has been understandably concerned about what he calls the
>>>> "Approval
>>>> Bad Example" (ABE), as exemplified by
>>>>
>>>> 49: C     (sincere)
>>>> 27: A>B (sincere)
>>>> 24: B     (sincere is B>C, but are trying to steal election from A).
>>>>
>>>> He considers that a voting method must meet the Favorite Betrayal
>>>> Criterion (FBC) and
>>>> also he objects to the B voters in the above scenario being rewarded
>>>> for their "defection"
>>>> from the sincere {A,B} coalition (as they are with any method that
>>>> meets both the Plurality
>>>> and Minimal Defense criteria).
>>>>
>>>> I suggest this method to fill the bill. It uses Kevin Venzke's special
>>>> "Tied-at-the-Top"
>>>> pairwise rule.
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.electorama.com/**wiki/index.php?title=Tied_at_**the_top<http://wiki.electorama.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tied_at_the_top>
>>>>
>>>> *Voters submit 3-slot ratings ballots, default rating is Bottom
>>>> signifying least preferred,
>>>> Top rating signifies most preferred, the other ratings slot is Middle.
>>>>
>>>> According to the "Tied-at-the-Top" pairwise rule (TTP), candidate X
>>>> beats candidate Y
>>>> if the number of ballots on which X is given a higher rating than Y
>>>>  *plus the number of
>>>> ballots on which X and Y are both rated Top* is greater than the number
>>>> of ballots on
>>>> which Y is given a higher rating than X.
>>>>
>>>> (And of course vice versa, so it is possible for any pair of candidates
>>>> X and Y that some
>>>> ballots show Top rating for both to TTP beat each other).
>>>>
>>>> If any candidate X  TTP beats any candidate Y, is not in turn TTP
>>>> beaten by Y and is
>>>> not TTP beaten by any candidate Z that doesn't also TTP beat Y, then Y
>>>> is disqualified.
>>>>
>>>> Elect the undisqualified candidate  that is rated Top on the highest
>>>> number of ballots.*
>>>>
>>>> I think and hope this meets the FBC. If  it can be shown not to then I
>>>> will withdraw my
>>>> support for it.  It meets the Mono-add-Plump and the Plurality criteria.
>>>>
>>>> In the above example election no candidate is disqualified and C wins.
>>>> If the B supporters
>>>> vote sincerely then C will be disqualified and A will win.
>>>>
>>>> My suggested name for this method  "Tied at Top Pairwise
>>>> Disqualification, Top Ratings"
>>>> (TTPD,TR) is currently tentative and unenthusiastic, so if  it is
>>>> agreed that it meets the FBC
>>>> then I'm open to other suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Benham
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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