[EM] IRV Variant

Jameson Quinn jameson.quinn at gmail.com
Mon Nov 7 11:06:18 PST 2011


2011/11/7 MIKE OSSIPOFF <nkklrp at hotmail.com>

>  *
> Jameson:
>
> I'd said:
>
> > My current favorite is MDD, ER-Bucklin (whole)   (where ER-Bucklin(whole)*>* is defined*>* as in the electowicki).*>**>**
> You replied:
>
> This is very similar to Majority Judgment. The advantages of the latter are:
> 1. There's a book about it.
> 2. There's a wikipedia article about it.
> 3. Balinski and Laraki (the inventors) make a good argument that methods
> like this should use words, not numbers, as rating categories, to encourage
> a common understanding of meanings among voters; and that this will improve
> results.
> [endquote]
>
> I'll check its wikipedia article and its electowiki article if there is one.
>
> Majority Judgement--Isn't that the Score Voting method that elects the candidate
> with the highest median score? It seems to me that that method shares much of the
>
> extreme-rating incentive of ordinary Score Voting (the one that just sums each
> candidate's scores).
>
> ER-Bucklin is a median-based method. If you like it, you can't have many
good reasons to dislike MJ.

>
> I'd said:
>
> >* It's the Cadillac of FBC methods.*>**>* Is there an FBC-complying method meets UP and SDSC and that does better by*>* other criteria?*>**>* Is there an FBC-complying method that doesn't fail in the Approval*>* bad-example?*>**>**
> You replied:
>
> SODA voting. As I've said about 5 times already.
> [endquote]
>
> Yes, but, as I was saying, I've encountered resistance when bringing up methods involving
> proxies (delegates.
>
> Under SODA, if you don't like proxies, you are free to use approval. That
is much better than systems which force you to use proxies, or which offer
plurality as a fallback (because plurality can never be an
even-playing-field replacement for delegation, whereas approval can).

Basically, you should reply to such people: if you don't like delegation,
that's your choice; others do, and that's their choice. Opposing SODA
because you don't like proxies is like opposing the internet because you
don't like lolcats.

>
> Of course it doesn't hurt to ask people, but I didn't have much success with such methods in
>
> the past.
>
> Mike Ossipoff
>
>
>
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