[EM] Two simple alternative voting methods that are fairer than IRV/STV and lack most IRV/STV flaws
Chris Benham
cbenhamau at yahoo.com.au
Wed Jan 20 09:48:25 PST 2010
Dave Ketchum wrote (18 Jan 2010):
"In response I will pick on LNH for not being a serious reason for
rejecting Condorcet - that such failure can occur with reasonable
voting choices for which the voter knows what is happening. Quoting
from Wikipedia:
>For example in an election conducted using the Condorcet compliant
>method Ranked pairs the following votes are cast:
>49: A
>25: B
>26: C>B
>B is preferred to A by 51 votes to 49 votes. A is preferred to C by
>49 votes to 26 votes. C is preferred to B by 26 votes to 25 votes.
>There is no Condorcet winner and B is the Ranked pairs winner.
>Suppose the 25 B voters give an additional preference to their
>second choice C.
>The votes are now:
>49: A
>25: B>C
>26: C>B
>C is preferred to A by 51 votes to 49 votes. C is preferred to B by
>26 votes to 25 votes. B is preferred to A by 51 votes to 49 votes.
>C is now the Condorcet winner and therefore the Ranked pairs winner.
>By giving a second preference to candidate C the 25 B voters have
>caused their first choice to be defeated.
Pro-A is about equal strength with anti-A. For this it makes sense
for anti-A to give their side the best odds with the second vote
pattern, not caring about LNH (B and C may compete with each other,
but clearly care more about trouncing A)."
<snip>
Dave,
Your assumption that "B and C may compete with each other, but clearly
care more about trouncing A" is based on what?
The ballots referred to contain only the voters' rankings, with no indications
about their relative preference strengths.
If you read my entire post you will see that in it I endorse three methods,
one of which is a Condorcet method.
Chris Benham
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