[EM] NPV vs Condorcet
Kristofer Munsterhjelm
km-elmet at broadpark.no
Wed Oct 22 09:18:00 PDT 2008
Bob Richard wrote:
> I'm obviously missing something really, really basic here. Can someone
> explain to me what it is?
>
> > Take it from the FPTP count and recount it
> > into the N*N array by Condorcet rules ...
>
> I still have no idea what this means. Here's an example:
>
> Plurality result:
> Able: 45
> Baker: 40
> Charlie: 15
>
> Here's a (very naive) NxN matrix (fixed-width font required):
>
> Able Baker Charlie
> ------- ------- -------
> Able -- 45 45
> Baker 40 -- 40
> Charlie 15 15 --
>
> But it's not a Condorcet count because we have, for example, no idea how
> many of the Able voters prefer Baker to Charlie and how many prefer
> Charlie to Baker. As a result, the pairs of cells above and below the
> diagonal don't add up to 100. I still don't see how we can "recount it
> into the NxN matrix by Condorcet rules".
>
> Someone please show me the NxN matrix that Dave Ketchum would use to
> combine these votes with the other votes that had been cast on ranked
> ballots.
If we consider the votes as bullet votes, then we can expand to:
45: Able > Baker = Charlie
40: Baker > Able = Charlie
15: Charlie > Able = Baker
which produces the matrix you gave above.
That's the "consider bullet voters" idea. The other one is to count the
plurality vote locally, so you get:
100: Able > Baker > Charlie
which gives
A B C
A 0 100 100
B 0 0 100
C 0 0 0
and which could be used for any voting system. I think the first idea is
better, though.
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