[EM] New MN court affidavits by those defending non-Monotonic voting methods & IRV/STV
Dave Ketchum
davek at clarityconnect.com
Fri Nov 7 12:35:57 PST 2008
Topic below is monotonicity, which seems discardable as a side issue.
Of more importance is IRV's NOT CARING whether more voters indicate
preferring A>B or B>A - can even declare A the winner when a majority of
voters prefer B of this pair.
Example:
20 A>B
15 C>B>A
10 D>B>A
Here a majority prefer B>A, but C and D have a special attraction for some
some minorities.
DWK
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:23:39 -0700 Kathy Dopp wrote:
> FYI,
>
> Defendants in the MN Case (who are promoting IRV and STV methods) have
> just released new affidavits to the court that discuss Arrow's theorem
> as supporting the case for IRV/STV and dismissing the importance of
> IRV's nonmonotonicity.
>
> I posted three of these most recent affidavits of the defendants of
> Instant Runoff Voting and STV here:
>
> http://electionmathematics.org/em-IRV/DefendantsDocs/
>
> The first two docs listed are by Fair Vote's new expert witness.
>
> The third doc is by the Minneapolis, MN City attorney.
>
> The defendants characterize Arrow's theorem as proving that "there
> exists no unequivocally satisfactory, or normatively appealing, voting
> rule." and claim the "possibility of nonmonotonic results plagues ALL
> potential democratic voting systems with 3 or more candidates unless a
> dictatorial voting rule is adopted."
>
> I would appreciate it if any of you have time to read some of the
> above three docs, particularly the third document by the attorney, and
> give me your responses.
>
> FYI, the plaintiff's characterizes Arrow's theorem on p. 3 of this doc:
>
> http://electionmathematics.org/em-IRV/DefendantsDocs/11SuplementaryReplyMemoinSupportofMotionforSummaryJudgment.pdf
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kathy
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