[Election-Methods] Two replies
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abd at lomaxdesign.com
Sun Aug 12 08:07:13 PDT 2007
At 03:41 AM 8/12/2007, Juho wrote:
>On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:40 , Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
> > The extension of "strategic" to include votes which involve
> > expressing an equal rating for candidates when the voter actually
> > has a preference is, in my view, properly controversial.
>
>I'm ok with any stable definition.
The standard definition seems to be [wikipedia]:
>In <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system>voting systems,
>tactical voting (or strategic voting) occurs when a voter supports a
>candidate other than his or her sincere preference in order to
>prevent an undesirable outcome.
However, "strategic voting" was used prior to the consideration of
Range methods. In the context of ranked methods, from Plurality on
up, "strategic voting" involves a preference reversal. The literal
meaning of the above definition would actually require calling an IRV
vote of A>B>C "strategic voting" because expressing the B>C
preference "supports" candidate B -- only partially. The article goes on:
>It has been shown by the
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbard-Satterthwaite_theorem>Gibbard-Satterthwaite
>theorem that any voting method which is completely strategy-free
>must be either dictatorial or nondeterministic (that is, might not
>select the same outcome every time it is applied to the same set of
>voter preferences).
The theorem mentioned appears to study only ranked methods.
If we assume that we have "strategic voting" whenever a voter votes
equality for two or more candidates, no matter how small the
preference, we end up with a totally useless term, because the most
trivial preference, transient, below the level of preference noise,
would be called a "strategic vote." Rather, for the term to be
useful, there must be some threshhold of preference, below which
voting equality is simply "sincere," not "strategic."
We get some help from the common opposition: sincere and strategic.
If the opposite of sincere is strategic, i.e., strategic means
"non-sincere" (with the additional condition that it is done to gain
some tactical advantage), then we know that any vote that is not
sincer, done for the purpose of improving election outcome, is "strategic."
Is it "sincere" vote equality when you have some preference? Well, it
could be. But first, note something. Suppose we are voting Approval.
I approve my favorite only. Am I voting "strategically?" Indeed, with
any ranked method, suppose I rank all candidates but two, with
sincere rankings. Is this a "strategic vote" if I do, in fact have
some preference among those I did not approve or rank?
Most would not consider it that. I conclude that the best definition
of "strategic voting," one that does not lead to uselessness of the
term, is that it involves expressing a preference reversal. In
Approval, for example, if one prefers one candidate to another, but
Approves the other and not the preferred, and this were done for
strategic purpose, it could be called "strategic voting." But
Approval does not reward that behavior, the "strategic purpose" must
be other than determining the winner.
In Range Voting -- and Approval is really the same -- we can assume
that the voter has an internal ranking. Equal ranking is possible in
this internal ranking, but would be relatively rare. However, the
voter uses some algorithm to translate internal rankings to votes. In
doing so, the voter, we can normally expect, will preserve rank
order; however, the translation need not be linear, it need not
preserve preference strengths.
Range N is equivalent to casting N votes in an Approval election. One
may quite sincerely decide that it is offensive to cast *any* votes
for Bush, for example. Even if Adolf Hitler is on the ballot. A
Republican might think that way about Hillary Clinton, perhaps. Is
this "strategic voting" if, forced to make a choice, the voter
actually does have a preference? I don't think so. Yet it is equal
ranking, at the bottom.
Similar arguments may apply to the top as well. I might think it
offensive to insist on a preference when two candidates are really,
in my view, both suitable for the office, and I know that others may
not feel that way. Thus, with respect to all candidates other than
these two, I express a full pairwise vote, and between the two, I
abstain. This can be fully sincere.
Now, in the example Juho gave, we had some Republican voters who
voted R2 100, R1 0, D 0, when they allegedly had sincere preferences
of 100, 90, 70. Is this "strategic voting"?
What the voter has done would be considered a "sincere vote" in
Plurality. In Approval, *it depends on the Approval cutoff*. But for
a vote to be strategic, there are two aspects: preference reversal
(or some obviously include preference equality), *and* strategic gain.
We assume, and indeed we encourage, voters to vote in order to
influence the outcome toward what they want. Is an Approval vote by
an R2 voter, as described, however, a 'preference reversal or
equality,' for strategic gain. The voter voted sincere first
preference. The alleged insincerity would be at the other end. On
what basis is it considered "strategic"?
If we required mean-based Approval as the only sincere form, we could
indeed claim the R2 vote is strategic. However, that's preposterous.
The sincere utilities we were given of 100, 90, and 70, are
half-normalized. What if non-normalized utilities (full scale) were
50, 45, 35, and "50" in this internal scale means "barely
acceptable." This would explain the Approval Vote, and it would be
totally sincere.
(The voter normalized by multiplying all utilities by two to get the
Range Vote. This is a normalization which ties the top vote to the
max rating and leaves zero untouched. That's why it is called
"half-normalization.")
A voter who votes as the R2 voters voted is using a certain kind of
transformation to convert internal utilities to Range Votes. The
error typically made by Range critics is to assume that the voter
distorts their vote, for strategic purpose, when, suppposedly, they
don't have a preference as strong as what they expressed.
But there must be a motive for them to do this. Why is this motive
not *included* in the "sincere preferences?" For example, a voter, in
some abstract sense, might rate D, R1, and R2, as 70, 90, 100, what
was given as the "sincere" ratings for the R2 voters. However, the
voter is married to R2, and *really* wants R2 to win, very strongly.
Wait a minute! Wouldn't this be included in the ratings?
What is assumed is behavior unmotivated by preference, gaining some
presumed advantage for the "strategic" voter. But if it is an
"advantage," it *is* a preference.
I'm pointing out, as I have many times, that assuming low preference
voted as strong preference is a contradiction. It's a defect in the
preference model, not in the election method.
>Yes, the voting pattern in the example is exaggerated. Casting "weak"
>votes is possible in practically any set-up and they may influence
>the outcome in many.
Indeed it can.
> > Juho has asserted that these are sincere utilities, but he has
> > totally avoided the question of what they mean. What *kind* of
> > sincere utilities?
>
>I'm ok with any kind.
Apparently true. Juho is content with "sincere utilities" that make
no sense at all, given the voter's behavior!
I've pointed out how the "sincere utilities" he posited could be such
that the vote is entirely sincere. Yet he thinks he can judge whether
or not a particular vote is "strategic" by looking only at the vote.
It's preposterous. It would be better for Juho if he simply admitted
he backed himself into a corner. Nobody will hold it against him!
> > He is not explicit about what he is comparing the method with. Bad
> > compared to what? Or just *absolutely* bad?
>
>I compared use of weak and strong votes within Range.
No, why is the *result* bad? Who thinks it is bad? The D or R1 voters?
But, wait a minute! It's been acknowledged that R2 is considered a
decent winner by the Ds, and the R1 voters presumably have an even
higher opinion of R2.
> > Juho did not provide us a basis for concluding that R1 and D are
> > better winners. To conclude that, we would have to know how to
> > compare the utilities of the D, R1, and R2 winners. The utilities
> > he stated are "half-normalized." That's odd. In order to compare
> > and sum S.U., the ranges of utilities need to be tied to each other
> > in some way, so that they are commensurable, so that summing them
> > has meaning.
> >
> > I discussed this at some length, but it seems it sailed past Juho.
>
>Your scenarios are ok to me. I accept any way of determining utilities.
But not any way of determining *votes* from utilities, apparently. By
allowing himself to posit one set of utilities for the voters, and a
radically different set of Range Votes, he can obviously manipulate
the scenario so that it does not elect the "true" SU winner. However,
it fails to do so for two combined reasons:
The R2 voters set an Approval cutoff above R1. And: The D and R1
voters voted Range, which is not explicit as to Approval cutoff, but
we might normally assume an Approval cutoff of 50%. Their votes were
telling the method, "we accept any of these candidates, though we
prefer them in this order."
So the method maximizes the expressed approval of the voters. The D
and R1 voters, by their votes, partially abstained, which is their
right. However, they are thereby telling the method that they don't
care so much about who wins, thus deferring to those who *do* care.
Clearly, the R2 voters care! Their supposed "sincere" ratings are
inconsistent with their votes.
By assuming something false, you can prove anything....
The point about so-called 'strategic voting' in Range is a very
important one. This argument that Juho presented is quite common
among Range critics. Quite a similar example is presented by Rob
Richie of FairVote. It's an example where the supposed bad outcome is
one where all voters, in fact, see a winner whom they rated as very,
very good. What is supposedly bad is that a majority had a preference
for someone else, and, allegedly, the strong vote of the minority was
"insincere."
It is not only a contradiction, it further rests on the presumption
that the Majority Criterion is pre-eminent.
But we know that majority preference, if it is weak, in ordinary
human social interactions, is a poor standard for making decisions.
Force simple majority preference, you can get armed insurrections. Or
some friends who go hungry because they can't eat, at all, the pizza
that the majority had a small preference for, when another choice was
*quite* acceptable to every friend.
The *foundation* of the majority criterion is majority rule, which is
quite another matter -- Richie conflates them explicitly, calling the
Majority Criterion, "Majority Rule." But majority rule refers to the
right of the majority to make a decision. It's well known that this
decision is not clear when made as a multiple-choice question, so we
only know "majority rule" when the majority explicitly votes for an outcome.
(If you say to the voters, Do you want A or B, and a majority of
voters select B, is this "majority rule"? Maybe, but it has not been
shown. What if the majority preferred "Neither"? You know you have
majority consent if they express it explicitly, either by voting Yes
or No to the question, "Shall A be elected," or, possibly, by
expressing explicit Approval on a multiple-choice ballot. (Simple
Approval, unless the instructions make it explicit, and there is no
forcing of equal rating from election context, doesn't do this, but
it could be made explicit, by any of various methods.)
> > No election has had a "bad" outcome if all the voters consider it a
> > good one! And Juho ackowledged above that the Ds considered R2 "not
> > a poor choice."
> >
> > Not a poor choice is, quite simply, not a "bad" choice.
>
>Yes, and R2 had the worst in S.U. in this example.
I'm suggesting that this is because the true utilities of the R2
voters were not as stated. Juho avoided considering what kind of
utilities these were, but it matters. The utilities of all voters
were "half-normalized." Normalization loses utility information. If
you want to know the true SU, you must know non-normalized utilities.
Warren's simulations start by simulating utilities on a common scale,
so the utilities can then be added to determine true SU. Juho avoided
the whole issue, leaving him with no way of determining that his
statement is true.
We know that Range Voting does not always optimize SU. But it does a
better job than any other method, short of bybrids (which I propose
as much better election methods than Range alone) and, I think,
random voter, which is politically unacceptable; it produces the best
*average* outcome, but has too wide a variation.
So a finding that in some situation Range Voting does not choose the
SU winner is unsurprising. It can fail to do that; however, the
conditions under which it fails are such, typically, that very little
harm is done. The allegedly "bad outcome" for the Range election
posited by Juho was actually, as he has acknowledged, a good outcome,
just not "the best."
But even that conclusion is far from clear. It is quite true: if
voters know how the other voters will vote, then the voter may, given
the opportunity, vote to maximize personal utility. Range does not
create this situation, it is true for ranked methods as well. The R2
voters would be insane to vote as they voted, if the sincere
utilities were actually as stated (according to certain assumptions
about what they mean, which Juho never stated). The reason is that
for their votes to be optimal, they would have to know that the other
voters were going to vote weakly. And that situation, that most
voters would vote weakly, is entirely out of what we expect in the
near future. Or ever.
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