[EM] Response to Kevin Venzke's response

[Doreen Dotan]

B"H
 
Hi, Toplak.  You're right on both counts.  Please read the section of my post that I retained below.
 
Before reading your question I thought of an improved system of voting as being a stepping stone to anarchy.  Now that you bring up the subject, having seen how sticky the issue of sincere voting is and reading from experts that every system of voting devised in fraught with problems, I may have no recourse but to come to the conclusion that no system of voting can ameliorate or mitigate the inherent problems in our systems of government.  That I would consider to be a "last resort" decision that I am nowhere near ready to come to yet, however.  I should like to consider the alternatives that exist in depth first. 
 
Where are you from?  Interesting name you have there. 
 
Doreen


Toplak Jurij <jure.toplak at uni-mb.si> wrote:
Hi,
I thought real anarchist were against elections and law.
Or is this "the least of all evils", too? :)
Best,
J.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Doreen Dotan 
To: Election Methods 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:19 AM
Subject: [EM] Response to Kevin Venzke's response



 I am an anarchist - a real one *and a realistic* one.  That means that I am neither a new-fangled "anarcho-capitalist" or "left libertarian", both of whose programmes make my hair stand up on end. The central lesson that I have learned from the 20th C. is that if people are presented with a political system which is beyond their moral ken and ability to discipline themselves within they will go to hell in a handbag with themselves and wind up with a system worse than the one they overthrew. On this list one of the central problems, if not the central problem, of finding better election methods is the problem of sincere voting.  If Human beings have not yet arrived at the point of being able to vote sincerely they most certainly cannot handle anarchy. However, we can gently urge them toward that goal, improving the system we have step by step - and the system we have, like it or not, is federalism.


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