[EM] Plurality is not a "yes/no voting system"
Adam Tarr
atarr at purdue.edu
Sun Jun 6 08:12:02 PDT 2004
Tom Ruen wrote:
>Adam Tarr says Approval voting can fit under "Yes/No voting" or "Ratings
>voting", however I deny that plurality can be classified as a "yes/no"
>voting method.
>
>Labeling a class of methods as "yes/no" to me implies a series of
>independent questions where a valid respond can consider independent
>responses on each question.
This is a reasonable criticism. However, I once again refer you to the
first line of the section, which is, "Single Winner systems can be
classified by ballot type". I think this is a reasonable approach (in fact
it is the best approach I can come up with) and it clearly divides things
into three categories.
I have struggled (and, in your opinion, failed) to come up with an adequate
name for the simplest and most common sort of ballot - namely, the ballot
where the voter is presented with a list of names with empty boxes next to
each one. I am very open to a better suggestion for a name. Heck,
"traditional ballot methods" versus "ranked ballot methods" versus "rated
ballot methods" seems reasonable to me. Would you consider that an
improvement?
>A method that allows independent answers is a categorical "ratings method".
Provided the scale is independent of the number of candidates, I
agree. But a method that uses the simplest sort of ballots, is a method
that uses the simplest sort of ballots. A tautology, I know, but one that
apparently needs repeating.
Also, for argument's sake, would this make Condorcet a ratings
method? After all, relative ranking is all that matters there. If I put
half the candidates in third place, and the other half in fourth place, I
think my ballot is still valid.
>A method that has a limitations on answers can only be a "rank" system.
I would define rank systems by systems that ask the voter to submit an
ordinal ranking. So here I disagree.
You're trying to make the dichotomy be independent versus dependent
choices, and I really don't think it fits. As I have said exhaustively,
we're basing this on the ballot type. Basically, it comes down to slots
per candidate.
Binary choice next to each candidate = traditional ballot, yes/no, up/down,
whatever you want to call it
N slots for candidates (where N is the number of candidates plus or minus a
fixed integer factor) = ranked ballot
N slots per candidate (N is independent of the number of candidates) =
rated ballot
And yes, when N=2 in the third case, approval fits both the first and third
categories. I do not dispute this.
>It only makes sense to call "plurality" a "rank system". It simply limits
>the ranking depth to one.
While this can be an academically useful way to look at plurality, I think
it's a lousy way to classify plurality in an encyclopedia. It seems
confusing to the layman.
>If people disagree the wikipedia Voting system page should not have a "one
>vote" category of single winner systems,
I still think that the ideas of "one vote" and "multiple vote" are poorly
defined, as they are based on non-unique definitions of how to evaluate the
ballots.
-Adam
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