[EM] serious strategy problem in Condorcet, but not in IRV?

[Dave Ketchum]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:57:11 -0400 Eric Gorr wrote:

> At 5:13 PM -0400 8/17/03, James Green-Armytage wrote:
> 
>> The outcome is unpredictable. It is quite possible that C will be elected,
>> despite the fact that he so clearly does not deserve to win. This is not a
>> pleasant scenario at all from the point of view of democracy, utility,
>> majority rule, public trust in government, etc.
> 
> 
> Why?
> 
> The voters you are describing are no longer interested in democracy, 
> majority rule, etc.
> 
> When there are such blatant, unapologetic attempts to manipulate the 
> system, no voting system can possibly save them.
> 

Just looking at the first example:
      It starts with 44: B>A - they consider A to be better than C, and A 
wins - GREAT!
      Then they switch to 44: B>C - they claim to prefer C over A, and C 
wins - ALSO GREAT!

     What is NOT GREAT is the propaganda claim that it is unfair for the 

voting method to honor their votes just because the propagandist asserts 

that their claim to prefer C was insincere.
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