[EM] The Allure of IRV
Joe Weinstein
jweins123 at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 24 19:31:26 PDT 2002
Alex writes, "Once you support ranking, unless you've heard of
Condorcet the runoff idea makes intuitive sense, since plenty of places in
the US use 2-stage runoff..".
All sorts of unnecessary complications can make 'intuitive sense'. All one
needs is a mental commitment to be (gratuitously) complex and arcane.
That's what IRV is all about. There's no answering people, however
allegedly 'intelligent', who are committed to gratuitous complexity and are
unwilling to ponder counterarguments.
Just remember that (for those of us with simpler intuitions) NOTHING
actually requires runoff. The French could have quit at the primary stage.
Runoff - as right now in France - is just a attempt to manufacture a
'majority' when in fact none need exist.
Far better than IRV, if you really want a true majority, or something close
to it, the Approval winner is as close as you will get. If you want, insist
(a la Demorep) that the Approval winner actually command at least 50%, else
choice devolves to a legislature. Or, even better, first hold a 'runoff'
which is just a re-run, in order to give the electorate a second chance to
get a 50% Approval Winner.
Actually, if you insist on being able to use three or more ranks, being able
to independently grade the different candidates makes even MORE sense: it's
more flexible and expressive. In other words, you get Cardinal Ratings
(CR).
[To be sure, with instrumental-only strategy, CR amounts to Approval.
In favor of CR, I have argued that people have reasons of expressivity to
use CR to vote intermediate grades. Moreover - if a public is ready to put
up with the clerical problems just of ranking - it would be little or no
extra trouble, and fewer invalidated ballots, to allow X-slot grading. Here,
integer X could be as large as 11, for the case of ratings ranging from 0
through 10. But the best combination of CR-type expressivity and Approval
simplicity would be X-slot Approval.]
The basic argument that IRVites are making to the small part of the public
that is listening at all amounts to the Big Lie: 'IRV is the only available
alternative to the status quo.'
I go with Mike's proposed rejoinder, and I continue to suggest the following
message to those who want to join IRV campaigns:
Campaigning for IRV when Approval is available is like campaigning for
replacing tally marks by Roman numerals, when Hindu-Arabic decimals are
available.
Joe Weinstein
Long Beach CA USA
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