Approval and LO2E

Mike Ositoff ntk at
Fri Oct 30 18:53:14 PST 1998

> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:18:10   Mike Ositoff wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> 
> >> I think it's worth pointing out that Approval's LO2E assurance
> >> is rather different from the ranked methods'.  That is, in the
> >
> >I haven't made a secret of that, Blake: Approval doesn't assure
> >you that you'll never have strategic need to vote a less-liked
> >alternative equal to your favorite--but then neigher does
> >Margins :-)
> Of course, that isn't what LO2E says.  If I remember, LO2E says
> that the majority has a way to prevent the election of a candidate,
> without voting insincerely except with respect to this candidate.

That wasn't how it went, but someone, maybe you, found a problem
with LO2E-2, which is the one you're probably referring to, and
so I've quit using it, and I stick with the 1st Choice Criterion,
which says that there should never be a defensive strategic
need to vote a less-liked alternative over one's favorite
(weak form); or to vote a less-liked alternative equal to or
over one's favorite (strong form).

When we've used LO2E by itself, we're usually just referring
to a voters' problem, in general terms, the fact that voters
need to abandon favorites for compromises.

> >> ranked methods, if there is a candidate ranked last on a majority
> >> of ballots, that candidate will lose, and another candidate will
> >> win.  In approval, the majority may void the election by doing
> >> this.  Voiding the election could be there last choice, even
> >> below the candidate they are trying to defeat, but approval
> >> doesn't even ask how they feel about this.
> >> 
> >By doing what?? You've got to be more clear about what you mean.
> >How would a majority void the election by not voting for some
> >particular candidate?
> I'm referring to the idea that if no candidate wins a majority "YES"
> vote, the election does not produce a winner.  If you don't like the 
> term "voiding" the election, please suggest a different one.  I
> have struggled to find a better term myself.

No, that's not Approval


Voters may vote for 1 or more candidates, giving a whole vote
to each one they vote for. The candidate with the most votes


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