[EM] Participation reply
    Michael Ossipoff 
    mikeo2106 at msn.com
       
    Mon Feb 12 22:52:11 PST 2007
    
    
  
Id said:
		But I use Partilcipation when comparing Approval to IRV. Some say that's 
dishonest, to use Participation when my favorite method, Condorcet, fails 
Participation.
Someone replies:
I would say that it is somewhat misleading and inconsistent, and 
counter-productive to the goals of educating people and promoting the 
Condorcet criterion.
I reply:
Read on:
		But it isn't, because, unlike Condorcet, IRV has no redeeming qualities to 
outweigh its Participation failure.
Someone replies:
To be charitable, that is an absurd exaggeration made purely for the sake of 
being provocative.
I reply:
No, Condorcet does have advantages that outweigh its Participation 
violation. It is not an absurd exaggeration to say that IRV doesnt have any 
redeeming qualities that can outweigh its Participation failure. Of course 
maybe you value different things than I do, and maybe you find considerable 
value in IRV, enough to make you want to use it in spite of its 
Participation failure.
Mike Ossipoff
    
    
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