[EM] Mike Ossipoff promotes instant-runoff voting.

[Michael Garman]

Had you not already? Good to have you back :-)

On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 11:02 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Blocking that Dunning-Kruger ctackpot.
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 7:56 PM Michael Garman <
> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
>
>> Where did I say “eliminate”? The only use of that word I can find in my
>> archives is me saying FV updated its messaging guidance from “eliminate” to
>> “reduce.”
>>
>> Nice to see that even though you’ve taken to advocating for RCV (as
>> you’ll now willingly call it), you haven’t lost your passion for unhinged
>> screeds :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 10:49 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Incorrect. Michael Garman is misrepresenting what I said.
>>>
>>> I advocated for RCV for a long time on EM & everywhere else too.
>>>
>>> What I criticized about Garman was his false claim that RCV eliminates
>>> the spoiler-problem.
>>>
>>> Wrong. It “only” eliminates the spoiler-problem for members of the
>>> Mutual-Majority. …but that’s good enough. Not many methods do so.
>>>
>>> Approval, Score & star don’t do so for ***anyone***.
>>>
>>> Could one ask for more? Well RP(wv) & MinMax(wv) effectively pretty-much
>>> do so everyone.
>>>
>>> …at the unacceptable cost of fast becoming unhandcountable with more
>>> than a few candidates…with the consequent greater count-fraud problem. As I
>>> said: Unacceptable.
>>>
>>> Garman’s falsehood was (& still is?) discrediting RCV.
>>>
>>> Michael Ossipoff
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM Michael Garman <
>>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd be curious to learn why he changed his mind. He was nothing short
>>>> of hostile to anyone who suggested it was even a minor improvement from FPP
>>>> while he was on this list.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 10:42 AM Markus Schulze via Election-Methods <
>>>> election-methods at lists.electorama.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After 30 years, Mike Ossipoff had a change of hearts and now promotes
>>>>> instant-runoff voting:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://democracychronicles.org/why-ranked-choice-voting-is-the-best-choice/
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