[EM] Strategy-free criterion

[Closed Limelike Curves]

Robert, have you ever heard of the Lucas critique?

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 5:26 AM robert bristow-johnson <
rbj at audioimagination.com> wrote:

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> *From: *Michael Ossipoff
> *Date: *Fri, May 31, 2024 07:54
> *To: *robert bristow-johnson;
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> *Subject:*Re: [EM] Strategy-free criterion
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> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 08:00 robert bristow-johnson <
> rbj at audioimagination.com> wrote:
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>> > On 05/29/2024 5:15 PM EDT Closed Limelike Curves <
>> closed.limelike.curves at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > I'm trying to work out how the strategy-free criterion actually relates
>> to strategy, because it just sounds like it means the majority-Condorcet
>> criterion ("if a candidate majority-beats every other, they have to win if
>> everyone is honest"). @Michael Ossipoff ?
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>> "My system is only intended for honest men." - Jean-Charles, chevalier de
>> Borda
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>> We vote by secret ballot.  We have the right to vote for whomever we
>> choose for whatever reasons we choose.  There is no way to stop people from
>> voting in a manner that is nefarious.  Like for bigoted or for dishonest
>> reasons.
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>> The voting system must not be dependent on voters voting honestly.  We
>> are partisans, not judges.  No voter can be prevented from voting
>> insincerely, but we can try to disincentivize that.  We should not assume,
>> or require in advance, that voters vote sincerely for the election method
>> to work correctly.  We should expect them to vote in a manner that they
>> rationally believe is in their best political interest.
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> That’s why CW,Plurality is naive. Offensive strategy will make it no
> better than IRV. Really just expensive Plurality?
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> No. 2 elections (0.4%), it would do better.  Expense is about the same
> after voter education.
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