[EM] Fwd: Biden’s most striking moment of clarity
Michael Garman
michael.garman at rankthevote.us
Sat Jul 20 11:45:23 PDT 2024
I thought my belief that workers should control the means of production was
pretty textbook socialism. Apparently not! Ossipoff the all-wise has
spoken!!
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:38 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
wrote:
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> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:29 Michael Garman <
> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
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>> Find me a better *viable* candidate and I’ll vote for them. Someone who
>> polls above 5%, please.
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>>
> An end to the massacre is viable. Most Americans don’t want the massacre.
>
> All the things that the Public-Citizen article pointed out that most
> people want are viable, because most people want them.
>
> That goes also for an end to the mass-murder that you support.
>
>>
>> We’re going in circles. This argument is no longer productive. And enjoy
>> your dream world where the majority of Americans are not ready for
>> socialism…
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>
> I didn’t say “socialism”. That’s one of the words that you Democrats have
> for progressive policies.
>
> …when reality catches up? A bit pretentious to refer to your beliefs as
> reality.
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>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:27 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:24 Michael Garman <
>>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
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>>>> That’s not how it works, Mikey. Just because I belong to the same
>>>> political party as Biden and consider him less horrible than Trump, it
>>>> doesn’t mean I endorse everything he’s done. That’s not how voting works,
>>>> dipshit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, that’s how your loyal Democrat voting works, dipshit.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:22 PM Michael Ossipoff <
>>>> email9648742 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:19 Michael Garman <
>>>>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m a progressive and a Democrat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Given what your Democrat president does, no Democrat is a progressive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yo-yos Democrat, & calling yourself a progressive is an insult to all
>>>>> progressives
>>>>>
>>>>>> And as long as there are only two viable political parties, I’ll
>>>>>> remain one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> We can’t vote our way out of the genocide. But we can determine
>>>>>> whether just about everything else get worse or stays largely the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:18 PM Michael Ossipoff <
>>>>>> email9648742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:04 Michael Garman <
>>>>>>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But for how many people is that the most important factor
>>>>>>>> motivating their vote? Plenty of folks want him to stop the genocide in
>>>>>>>> Gaza but are willing to vote for him either way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, many people like you support, by their voting, the mass-murder
>>>>>>> that they claim to oppose in principle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you want him to stop his mass-murder, mutilation & maiming of
>>>>>>> children. But he hasn’t shown any willingness to stop.So you support those
>>>>>>> actions by voting for them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you vote for Biden, you’re voting for & supporting his
>>>>>>> mass-murder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You aren’t a progressive. You’re a Democrat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you sure that you want to support mass-murder of women &
>>>>>>> children?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:02 PM Michael Ossipoff <
>>>>>>>> email9648742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 10:50 Michael Garman <
>>>>>>>>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No reference to the word “polls.” Oops!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She refers to the wish of the vast majority of Americans for an
>>>>>>>>> end of Butcher Biden’s mass murder of children.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 1:48 PM Michael Ossipoff <
>>>>>>>>>> email9648742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jill Stein <info at jillstein2024.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 15:00
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Biden’s most striking moment of clarity
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Michael Ossipoff <Email9648742 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The president has been busy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Jill Stein for President]
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.jillstein2024.com/?e=fd2fdf8a58d486db63dbd3f538d9a65a&utm_source=jillsteinforpresident&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=biden_wars_around_the_world&n=1>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Biden submitted to a one-on-one interview with George
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephanopoulos the other day in an effort to dig out of his post-debate
>>>>>>>>>>> tailspin.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There was plenty in that interview that should be (and is)
>>>>>>>>>>> worrying even to the president’s staunchest supporters. But one moment in
>>>>>>>>>>> particular stood out to me:
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: An animated GIF of a video clip from the ABC News Biden
>>>>>>>>>>> interview with George Stephanopoulos in which Stephanopoulos says “You’ve
>>>>>>>>>>> had months to challenge him.” and Biden responds: “Oh sure I had months but
>>>>>>>>>>> I was also doing a hell of a lot of other things like wars around the
>>>>>>>>>>> world.” The clip rewinds and repeats “like wars around the world.”]
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Joe Biden just admitted he wasn’t prepared to face Trump
>>>>>>>>>>> because he’s been busy doing “wars around the world.”*For all
>>>>>>>>>>> the talk about the president’s age and declining acuity, I found this to be
>>>>>>>>>>> a REMARKABLY clear statement of his priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course we know how busy Biden has been. The worst of these
>>>>>>>>>>> “wars around the world” is Israel’s genocide in Gaza, armed and funded by
>>>>>>>>>>> our government at the unyielding insistence of Joe Biden himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sorry Joe, you can’t tell us democracy is on the ballot while
>>>>>>>>>>> you’re supplying bombs to a fascist apartheid state and facilitating the
>>>>>>>>>>> extermination of an entire people.*The vast majority of
>>>>>>>>>>> Americans want an END to Israel’s bloodlust and a permanent ceasefire for
>>>>>>>>>>> Palestine. I’ve been an anti-war activist all my life, and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *I’m running for president to dismantle the American war
>>>>>>>>>>> machine.Ours is the ONLY anti-genocide, pro-peace, pro-planet, pro-worker
>>>>>>>>>>> campaign that will be on the ballot across the country this November.
>>>>>>>>>>> Democrats are fighting like hell to keep us off the ballot and to make sure
>>>>>>>>>>> our Warmonger in Chief stays in power. I need your help today to fight back
>>>>>>>>>>> and make sure we ARE on the ballot in every state.
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The one and only campaign promise that Biden kept,
>>>>>>>>>>> unequivocally, was his promise to donors that “Nothing will fundamentally
>>>>>>>>>>> change.”
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whether Republicans or Democrats are in control, the interests
>>>>>>>>>>> of the capital class will always be protected, and the lives of the poor
>>>>>>>>>>> and working class will always be sacrificed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whether Republicans or Democrats are in control, we will
>>>>>>>>>>> continue burning fossil fuels and accelerating our demise as a species.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whether Republicans or Democrats are in control, America will
>>>>>>>>>>> continue to wage “wars around the world.”
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Nothing will fundamentally change until we the people demand
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In solidarity and gratitude,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>>
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