[EM] Fwd: Biden’s most striking moment of clarity
Michael Ossipoff
email9648742 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 20 11:37:55 PDT 2024
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:29 Michael Garman <michael.garman at rankthevote.us>
wrote:
>
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> Find me a better *viable* candidate and I’ll vote for them. Someone who
> polls above 5%, please.
>
>
An end to the massacre is viable. Most Americans don’t want the massacre.
All the things that the Public-Citizen article pointed out that most people
want are viable, because most people want them.
That goes also for an end to the mass-murder that you support.
>
> We’re going in circles. This argument is no longer productive. And enjoy
> your dream world where the majority of Americans are not ready for
> socialism…
>
I didn’t say “socialism”. That’s one of the words that you Democrats have
for progressive policies.
…when reality catches up? A bit pretentious to refer to your beliefs as
reality.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:27 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:24 Michael Garman <
>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
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>>>
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>>> That’s not how it works, Mikey. Just because I belong to the same
>>> political party as Biden and consider him less horrible than Trump, it
>>> doesn’t mean I endorse everything he’s done. That’s not how voting works,
>>> dipshit.
>>>
>>
>> No, that’s how your loyal Democrat voting works, dipshit.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:22 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:19 Michael Garman <
>>>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m a progressive and a Democrat.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Given what your Democrat president does, no Democrat is a progressive.
>>>>
>>>> Yo-yos Democrat, & calling yourself a progressive is an insult to all
>>>> progressives
>>>>
>>>>> And as long as there are only two viable political parties, I’ll
>>>>> remain one.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We can’t vote our way out of the genocide. But we can determine
>>>>> whether just about everything else get worse or stays largely the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:18 PM Michael Ossipoff <
>>>>> email9648742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:04 Michael Garman <
>>>>>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But for how many people is that the most important factor motivating
>>>>>>> their vote? Plenty of folks want him to stop the genocide in Gaza but are
>>>>>>> willing to vote for him either way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, many people like you support, by their voting, the mass-murder
>>>>>> that they claim to oppose in principle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you want him to stop his mass-murder, mutilation & maiming of
>>>>>> children. But he hasn’t shown any willingness to stop.So you support those
>>>>>> actions by voting for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you vote for Biden, you’re voting for & supporting his
>>>>>> mass-murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You aren’t a progressive. You’re a Democrat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you sure that you want to support mass-murder of women & children?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:02 PM Michael Ossipoff <
>>>>>>> email9648742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 10:50 Michael Garman <
>>>>>>>> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No reference to the word “polls.” Oops!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She refers to the wish of the vast majority of Americans for an end
>>>>>>>> of Butcher Biden’s mass murder of children.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 1:48 PM Michael Ossipoff <
>>>>>>>>> email9648742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>> From: Jill Stein <info at jillstein2024.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 15:00
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Biden’s most striking moment of clarity
>>>>>>>>>> To: Michael Ossipoff <Email9648742 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The president has been busy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: Jill Stein for President]
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joe Biden submitted to a one-on-one interview with George
>>>>>>>>>> Stephanopoulos the other day in an effort to dig out of his post-debate
>>>>>>>>>> tailspin.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There was plenty in that interview that should be (and is)
>>>>>>>>>> worrying even to the president’s staunchest supporters. But one moment in
>>>>>>>>>> particular stood out to me:
>>>>>>>>>> [image: An animated GIF of a video clip from the ABC News Biden
>>>>>>>>>> interview with George Stephanopoulos in which Stephanopoulos says “You’ve
>>>>>>>>>> had months to challenge him.” and Biden responds: “Oh sure I had months but
>>>>>>>>>> I was also doing a hell of a lot of other things like wars around the
>>>>>>>>>> world.” The clip rewinds and repeats “like wars around the world.”]
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Joe Biden just admitted he wasn’t prepared to face Trump because
>>>>>>>>>> he’s been busy doing “wars around the world.”*For all the talk
>>>>>>>>>> about the president’s age and declining acuity, I found this to be a
>>>>>>>>>> REMARKABLY clear statement of his priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course we know how busy Biden has been. The worst of these
>>>>>>>>>> “wars around the world” is Israel’s genocide in Gaza, armed and funded by
>>>>>>>>>> our government at the unyielding insistence of Joe Biden himself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sorry Joe, you can’t tell us democracy is on the ballot while
>>>>>>>>>> you’re supplying bombs to a fascist apartheid state and facilitating the
>>>>>>>>>> extermination of an entire people.*The vast majority of
>>>>>>>>>> Americans want an END to Israel’s bloodlust and a permanent ceasefire for
>>>>>>>>>> Palestine. I’ve been an anti-war activist all my life, and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *I’m running for president to dismantle the American war
>>>>>>>>>> machine.Ours is the ONLY anti-genocide, pro-peace, pro-planet, pro-worker
>>>>>>>>>> campaign that will be on the ballot across the country this November.
>>>>>>>>>> Democrats are fighting like hell to keep us off the ballot and to make sure
>>>>>>>>>> our Warmonger in Chief stays in power. I need your help today to fight back
>>>>>>>>>> and make sure we ARE on the ballot in every state.
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The one and only campaign promise that Biden kept, unequivocally,
>>>>>>>>>> was his promise to donors that “Nothing will fundamentally change.”
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whether Republicans or Democrats are in control, the interests of
>>>>>>>>>> the capital class will always be protected, and the lives of the poor and
>>>>>>>>>> working class will always be sacrificed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whether Republicans or Democrats are in control, we will continue
>>>>>>>>>> burning fossil fuels and accelerating our demise as a species.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whether Republicans or Democrats are in control, America will
>>>>>>>>>> continue to wage “wars around the world.”
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Nothing will fundamentally change until we the people demand it.
>>>>>>>>>> Our campaign is that demand, and we need your help to deliver that message
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In solidarity and gratitude,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>
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