[EM] A more particular mutual-majority & weaker MMC

Greg Dennis greg.dennis at voterchoicema.org
Mon Jul 8 14:47:52 PDT 2024


MIchael, to make sure I understand your definition, could you give an
example of a method that meets top-MMC and not MMC and an example election
in which it does?

On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 4:25 AM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> One way to say it:
>
> If wv would make a good choice when it elects the CW, then we have
> confidence in the CW’s  voters, the median voters.
>
> Then surely we have confidence in their 2nd-choice too.. the direction in
> which they send the win if the CW is eliminated.
>
> As I said, there’s good reason to believe the win will be sent in the
> progressive direction.
>
> …especially relevant given wv’s prohibitive count-task, which endangers
> count-fraud security.
>
> I mentioned tha Hare’s handcount doesn’t require any more votecounting
> than that of Approval…making handcount-audit JGA’s feasible.
>
> But Approval still has a less complicated count, making it better for
> count-fraud detection & prevention.
>
> Approval is my favorite for that reason, & for its minimalness, & easiest
> definition, explanation, proposal, enactment, implementation (zero-cost), &
> administration.
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 23:54 Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Lately I’ve been referring to a more particular mutual-majority than the
>> solid-coalition:
>>
>> A top-mutual-majority is a mutual majority, a solid coalition, for which
>> the set of candidates that they all prefer to everyone else consists of the
>> set containing the favorite candidate of each of them.
>>
>> I guess, then, any method meeting MMC would meet top-MMC, but not
>> vice-versa, which, then, means top-MMC is weaker
>>
>> I’ve lately been using “mutual-majority” to mean “top-mutual-majority”…
>>
>> …when I say that Hare always chooses from a mutual-majority when there is
>> one.
>>
>> According to Electowiki, Hare also always chooses from a solid coalition
>> when there is one.
>>
>> Burlington, Alaska & many polls suggest that our electorate, the
>> progressives are the top-mutual-majority.
>>
>> …& therefore can’t lose in Hare.
>>
>>
>>
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