[EM] Reply to an IRVist post on December 17th
Michael Ossipoff
email9648742 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 4 17:50:24 PST 2024
Greg—
In my example, I said that first Good gets eliminated, & then Best gets
eliminated.
So all that remains is Worst.
I made a typo in my post. I meant to say that the Good-supporters either
didn’t vote a 2nd choice, or else their 2nd-choice transfer was to Worst.
…but, when wrote that, I accidentally said “Best-supporters”, when I meant
“Good-supporters”.
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 17:18 Greg Dennis <greg.dennis at voterchoicema.org>
wrote:
> Hold on a second, if Good gets eliminated, there are only two candidates
> (Best and Worst) remaining, and whichever of those two with the most votes
> wins. That sample ballot counts for "Best" in the final round -- it is
> never counted for "Worst."
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 5:15 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I said:
>>
>>
>>
>> No, it [your ballot] doesn't[count for your 2nd choice] , unless your
>> 2nd choice is still there. Oops !!! You &
>>
>> Richie forgot to include the word "Maybe"
>>
>> …
>>
>> Michael Garman said:
>>
>> …
>>
>> Fine…it counts for your next highest choice still in the running. Which is
>>
>> also a reasonable interpretation of the “next choice” language you cite.
>>
>> Satisfied?
>>
>> …
>>
>> Does that person have any idea what he’s saying?
>>
>> …
>>
>> Say the election is between Best, Good, &Worst.
>>
>> …
>>
>> You rank Best>Good>Worst.
>>
>> …
>>
>> Good gets eliminated first, & then Best gets eliminated, & either hir
>> ballots don’t have a 2nd choice, or hir transfers go to Worst. According
>> to our friend here, now Good is no longer your 2nd choice. The
>> elimination of Good makes Worst your 2nd choice, & so FairVote’s promise
>> is kept: Your 2nd choice, Worst is elected !!
>>
>> …
>>
>> Oh, but wait, it gets even better:
>>
>> …
>>
>> Worst isn’t only your 2nd choice now: By our IRVist friend’s definition
>> of “choice”, now Worst becomes your 1st choice (because he’s the only
>> remaining candidate).
>>
>> …
>>
>> Congratulations !! You’ve elected your 1st choice, Worst !!!~
>>
>> …
>>
>> Ladies & Gentlemen of the jury: I present to you exhibit B, further
>> confirmation of the universal astounding dishonesty of the promotion of RCV.
>>
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