[EM] The critical importance of Precinct Summability.

robert bristow-johnson rbj at audioimagination.com
Thu Aug 8 04:59:58 PDT 2024


RP, Schulze, MiniMax needs N(N-1) tallies.Condorcet-Plurality or Condorcet-TTR needs N^2 tallies.Since cycles are rare and not predictable, I'm just not as worried as you scholars are about the differences in Condorcet methods regarding resistance to strategy.3 years ago I was plugging BTR-IRV because it was a simple modification to IRV, already in use.  But since I have been convinced that the law should be a two-method Condorcet system.  The law should say what it means and means what it says.  In the most pedestrian language possible.Last year we introduced H.424 which was Condorcet-Plurality.  Next year (new legislative session) I hope to persuade Bob and Carol to introduce another Condorcet RCV bill, this time maybe Condorcet-TTR which might be better, almost identical to Condorcet-IRV, but without all the round-by-round baggage.Powered by Cricket Wireless------ Original message------From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm Date: Thu, Aug 8, 2024 06:50To: robert bristow-johnson;election
 -methods at lists.electorama.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [EM] The critical importance of Precinct Summability.On 2024-08-07 04:11, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
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I agree. It's surprising that Venezuela has such a good reporting system 
if the authorities want to rig the elections anyway, though!

It's also unfortunate that I haven't found any suitable summable analogs 
of the resistant set for strategy resistance. I have some ideas of where 
I should look, but nothing concrete has come of it. Maybe it will turn 
out that the strongest manipulation resistance can only be achieved by 
giving up summability. But perhaps it doesn't matter. Perhaps RP is good 
enough :)

Thank you for letting the politicians know, in any case!

-km
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