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<div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">RP, Schulze, MiniMax needs N(N-1) tallies.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Condorcet-Plurality or Condorcet-TTR needs N^2 tallies.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Since cycles are rare and not predictable, I'm just not as worried as you scholars are about the differences in Condorcet methods regarding resistance to strategy.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3 years ago I was plugging BTR-IRV because it was a simple modification to IRV, already in use. But since I have been convinced that the law should be a two-method Condorcet system. The law should say what it means and means what it says. In the most pedestrian language possible.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Last year we introduced H.424 which was Condorcet-Plurality. Next year (new legislative session) I hope to persuad
e Bob and Carol to introduce another Condorcet RCV bill, this time maybe Condorcet-TTR which might be better, almost identical to Condorcet-IRV, but without all the round-by-round baggage.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto" font-size:9pt;"=""><i>Powered by Cricket Wireless</i></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div id="LGEmailHeader" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------ Original message------</div><div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Kristofer Munsterhjelm <km-elmet@munsterhjelm.no></km-elmet@munsterhjelm.no></div><div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Thu, Aug 8, 2024 06:50</div><div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>robert bristow-johnson<a href="mailto:;election-methods@lists.electorama.com">;election-methods@lists.electorama.com</a>;</div><div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [EM] The critical importance of Precinct Summability.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><pre>On <a href="tel:2024-08-07 04">2024-08-07 04</a>:11, robe
rt bristow-johnson wrote:
> From: robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2024 10:08 AM
> To: Mike McCarthy <mmccarthy@leg.state.vt.us>; Robert Hooper <rhooper@leg.state.vt.us>; Carol Ode <code@leg.state.vt.us>; Abbey Duke <aduke@leg.state.vt.us>; Irene Wrenner <iwrenner@leg.state.vt.us>; Thomas Chittenden <tchittenden@leg.state.vt.us>; Sarah Copeland Hanzas <sarah4vermont@gmail.com>
> Subject: [External] The critical importance of Precinct Summability.
I agree. It's surprising that Venezuela has such a good reporting system
if the authorities want to rig the elections anyway, though!
It's also unfortunate that I haven't found any suitable summable analogs
of the resistant set for strategy resistance. I have some ideas of where
I should look, but nothing concrete has come of it. Maybe it will turn
out that the strongest manipulation resistance can only be achieved by
giving up summability. But perhaps it doesn't matter. Perhaps RP is good
enough :)
Thank you for letting the politicians know, in any case!
-km
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