[EM] Express any wish for democratic choice of poll-parameters. Do-able if desired.

[Michael Ossipoff]

(Reply is at the end of the post)

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 02:54 Kristofer Munsterhjelm <km_elmet at t-online.de>
wrote:

> On 2024-04-09 01:58, Michael Ossipoff wrote:
> > When proposing this poll, I assumed that people would prefer the
> > simplest & least elaborate poll-proposal.
> >
> > I wasn’t trying to be autocratic or favor my favorites when I suggested
> > Schulze & Approval as the polling-methods. Schulze isn’t my favorite
> > Condorcet anyway, but it’s popular.
>
> I don't have any particular opinion, as long as the method is Condorcet
> and doesn't fail too many criteria. I think it's likely that the
> cloneproof defeat-droppers will all give the same result. There might
> even be a CW, which would solve the problem outright.
>
> I proposed Ext-Minmax more to reduce the chance of ties, since Schulze
> has a higher tie rate than other methods and RP breaks ties in a
> somewhat opaque manner. But again: the EM posts are public so anyone can
> run whatever voting method they'd like on the ranked ballots and report
> their results. If ties end up being a real problem, we can deal with it
> later.
>
> I'm not an Approvalist myself, but having an Approval ballot be part of
> the poll doesn't bother me either. In any case, I don't think it's
> necessary to complicate matters by having a vote about what voting
> method to use, or by inventing a meta-voting method.
>
> In short, let's keep it simple!


We have a view days before the vote. Probably there will be a CW. But
remember that an output-ranking requires about as many exhaustive pairwise
counts as there are candidates…greatly increasing the chance of a
pairwise-tie… for which we don’t have agreement on a completion-rule. So
why not determine how to deal with that?

Voter’s Choice is simple & natural. You automatically approve what your
designated method chooses…& also whatever you like better. What could be
more appealing & natural when there’s no agreed-upon completion-rule?

…& isn’t it worthwhile & of interest to determine what choice-method EM
prefers for its choices

We did a  Voter’s Choice poll a long time ago, to choose our method for
choices. Approval won. Now EM’s preference might have changed. It seems
worth finding-out.

>




>
> -km
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