[EM] Fwd: Legacy IRV limitations

[Michael Garman]

Okay, I’ll concede that I was thinking about the last 30 years or so — what
one might call the “FairVote era” but as I didn’t specify I will stand
corrected. By and large, those historical repeals were motivated by racism
and the Red Scare — opponents feared that STV (and it was STV, not IRV, in
most cases) would give Black people and communists political power.

I’d forgotten about Aspen. Fair enough.

Pierce County repealed RCV because the statewide switch to top-two
primaries rendered ranked choice general elections obsolete.
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 3:53 AM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Garman says:
>
> "And Burlington undid their repeal.
>
> No other jurisdiction in the US has voted to repeal RCV."
>
> Implementations rejected
>
> Between 1912 and 1930, limited forms of ranked-choice voting (typically
> with only two rankings[5]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:0-5>)
> were implemented and subsequently repealed in Florida
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida>, Indiana
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana>, Maryland
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland>, Minnesota
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota>, and Wisconsin
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin>. In the 1970s, it was
> implemented and repealed in Ann Arbor, Michigan
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arbor,_Michigan> following the
> election of the city’s first Black mayor in an RCV election.[254]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:1-254>
> [255]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-255>
> More recently, it was adopted and repealed in Pierce County, Washington
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierce_County,_Washington> (2006–2009);[6]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:2-6> Burlington,
> Vermont <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlington,_Vermont> (2005–2010);
> [7]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:3-7>
> and Aspen, Colorado <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen,_Colorado>
> (2007–2010).[8]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-:4-8>
> It has since been reinstated in Burlington, and Ann Arbor residents voted
> to reinstate it as well, with that use likely needing approval from
> Michigan’s state legislature.[256]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-256>
> [257]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#cite_note-257>
>
> Next, Mr. Garman, I'll contact the person who mentioned the conference in
> which Rob Richie or FairVote promised to stop making the
> false-claim...which he or they soon resumed making.
>
>  I'll post more details of the incident as soon as I get them.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:44 PM Michael Garman <
> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
>
>> And Burlington undid their repeal.
>>
>> No other jurisdiction in the US has voted to repeal RCV.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:43 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [Quote]
>>> Republicans were trying to ban RCV before the Alaska election.
>>> [/Quote]
>>>
>>> Same thing happened in Burlington. CW eliminated & transfers went away
>>> from Rep;publican & toward Progressive.
>>>
>>> ...& there hasn't just been one repeal. I've been told that there have
>>> been a fair number of repeals of RCV.  When people expect RCV to act like
>>> Condorcet, & it doesn't, RCV then has repeal as a built-in feature.
>>>
>>
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