[EM] Fwd: Election-methods messages not being posted

[Bob Richard (lists)]

I'm not completely sure, but I think the method they are describing is 
Baldwin

https://electowiki.org/wiki/Baldwin%27s_method

If I understand them correctly, the main advantage they see is the 
purely practical one that it can be sold as a modification of IRV rather 
than something different from IRV.

--Bob Richard

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>To me that description sounds like Borda.
>
>--pH
>
>>On Nov 7, 2022, at 3:09 AM, Rob Lanphier <roblan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Ralph asked me to forward this message to the list....
>>-------- Forwarded Message --------
>>Subject: "Total Vote Runoff" proposed as better way to determine 
>>ranked-choice winners
>>Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 13:13:21 -0500
>>From: Ralph Suter <RLSuter at aol.com> <mailto:RLSuter at aol.com>
>>To: election-methods-request at lists.electorama.com
>>
>>
>>In a Washington Post opinion article published today (11/2/2022), 
>>election law scholar Edward Foley and economist (and Nobel laureate) 
>>Erik Maskin propose a "tweak" to correct what they describe a flaw in 
>>how ranked choice winners are currently determined. They call the 
>>resulting election method a "total Vote Runoff".
>>Would anyone like to comment? It appears they are essentially 
>>proposing replacing instant run-off voting with Condorcet voting.
>>
>>-Ralph Suter
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>Alaska’s ranked-choice voting is flawed. But there’s an easy fix.
>>By Edward B. Foley 
>><https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fpeople%2Fedward-b-foley%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmanynote%40wustl.edu%7Cfa133c67c4dc47f95e4b08dac09fb788%7C4ccca3b571cd4e6d974b4d9beb96c6d6%7C0%7C0%7C638034089901705981%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CWW9yLx9%2BiXydFJ0Z3t40zdmCxJOdDSIM9DJMmxRBjc%3D&reserved=0> 
>>andEric S. Maskin
>>November 1, 2022 at 7:00 a.m. EDT
>>https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/01/alaska-final-four-primary-begich-palin-peltola/ 
>><https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fopinions%2F2022%2F11%2F01%2Falaska-final-four-primary-begich-palin-peltola%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmanynote%40wustl.edu%7Cfa133c67c4dc47f95e4b08dac09fb788%7C4ccca3b571cd4e6d974b4d9beb96c6d6%7C0%7C0%7C638034089901862217%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZyjYWk4PJuT%2FGrW3L4%2Bh6Q%2BOGx6rWpwSmh6wiQcDyI4%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>Excerpt:
>>Alaska’s special election in August for the House of Representatives 
>>was heralded as a triumph for ranked-choice voting, because MAGA 
>>favorite Sarah Palin, a personification of polarization, could not 
>>attract enough second-choice votes from moderate Republican Nick 
>>Begich’s supporters to win.
>>
>>That’s true. But the way Alaska uses ranked-choice voting also caused 
>>the defeat of Begich, whom most Alaska voters preferred to Democrat 
>>Mary Peltola, the candidate who ended up winning.
>>
>>This anomalous outcome, contrary to the principle that the majority’s 
>>preference should prevail, would be easily remedied by one small 
>>change.
>>
>>The key to ranked-choice voting is that a voter lists the candidates 
>>in order of preference, starting with their favorite, rather than 
>>naming just that favorite. The problem in Alaska — and other 
>>ranked-choice systems now in use, from Maine to San Francisco —is the 
>>rule for eliminating candidates when no one gets a majority of 
>>first-place votes. By tweaking this rule, Alaska’s system would become 
>>more palatable to Republicans and Democrats alike, and more likely to 
>>be adopted across the country.
>>
>>Begich was eliminated because he had the fewest first-place votes. 
>>That seems logical at first glance. But the flaw in this outcome — and 
>>why Republicans have reason to be resentful — is that a majority of 
>>voters would have favored Begich had the race come down to a 
>>head-to-head matchup against either Peltola (52 percent to 48 percent) 
>>or Palin (61 percent to 39 percent). He lost only because it was a 
>>three-way race.
>>
>>Here’s how to fix the flaw. If Alaska eliminated the candidate with 
>>the fewest total votes, rather than the fewest first-place votes, the 
>>ranked-choice system would be sure to elect a candidate such as Begich 
>>who defeats all rivals in one-on-one matchups.
>>
>>Call it a “Total Vote Runoff.” A candidate’s total votes in such a 
>>system would be determined by the number of other candidates he or she 
>>is ranked above. For example, when a candidate is ranked first on a 
>>ballot in an election involving three candidates, then this 
>>first-choice candidate is ranked above two other candidates and gets 
>>two votes from this ballot.
>>
>>When that same candidate is ranked second on another ballot, the 
>>candidate is favored over only one other candidate and would receive 
>>only one vote from that ballot.
>>
>>A candidate ranked last on a ballot, or not ranked at all, is not 
>>favored over anyone and gets no votes from that ballot.
>>
>>Calculating the number of votes that a candidate gets on each ballot — 
>>two, one or zero — and adding up the candidate’s votes from all the 
>>ballots yields the candidate’s total votes.
>>
>>Using this method, we can identify the number of ballots on which each 
>>of Alaska’s three candidates was ranked first or second and then 
>>calculate each candidate’s total votes (there were only three 
>>candidates in the House special election):
>>
>>>Alaska House results using total vote runoff
>>>First-place votes get counted twice because voters put their first 
>>>choice ahead of two other candidates.
>>>
>>>Column 1: Candidate
>>>Column 2: first-place votes
>>>Column 3: first-place votes, counted again
>>>Column 4: second-place votes
>>>Column 5: Overall Total
>>>
>>>Begich53,810 53,810 81,253 188,873
>>>Peltola75,799 75,799 19,024 170,622
>>>Palin58,973 58,973 31,611 149,557
>>>Source: Alaska official results, Alaska cast vote records, MIT 
>>>Election Data and Science Lab, Election Law at Ohio State, author 
>>>calculations 
>>><https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.elections.alaska.gov%2Fresults%2F22SSPG%2FRcvDetailedReport.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Cmanynote%40wustl.edu%7Cfa133c67c4dc47f95e4b08dac09fb788%7C4ccca3b571cd4e6d974b4d9beb96c6d6%7C0%7C0%7C638034089901862217%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=6dJZaB3lo5EwSDENGHGYX4Uugjg3tUL8EWl3moGfUMM%3D&reserved=0>
>>Palin had the fewest total votes, so she would have been the first 
>>candidate eliminated in a “Total Vote Runoff” tweak to RCV.
>>
>>With Palin eliminated, the race would have been between Begich and 
>>Peltola. Because a majority preferred Begich to Peltola, he would have 
>>been elected. Total Vote Runoff captures the will of the majority more 
>>accurately than Alaska’s current elimination system does.
>>
>>Republicans should like Total Vote Runoff because its procedure would 
>>help ameliorate the “candidate quality 
>><https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2022-election%2Fmcconnell-says-republicans-may-not-win-senate-control-citing-candidate-rcna43777&data=05%7C01%7Cmanynote%40wustl.edu%7Cfa133c67c4dc47f95e4b08dac09fb788%7C4ccca3b571cd4e6d974b4d9beb96c6d6%7C0%7C0%7C638034089901862217%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1dl8uetLcUijN9N%2FRjbloioH7ytYSJmANmk8JrAyZZs%3D&reserved=0>” 
>>problem that plagues their party, as Senate Minority Leader Mitch 
>>McConnell (R-Ky.) lamented. A candidate popular only with the party’s 
>>base would be eliminated early in a Total Vote Runoff, leaving a more 
>>broadly popular Republican to compete against a Democrat.
>>
>>Democrats, too, should welcome Total Runoff Voting to protect against 
>>losses caused by excessively progressive candidates who are 
>>unacceptable to a large portion of independent voters. Alaska-style 
>>ranked-choice voting might keep in contention a left-wing candidate 
>>whose first-place votes reflect enthusiastic but limited support, but 
>>Total Runoff Voting would promote Democratic candidates whose wide 
>>appeal makes them more competitive overall.
>>
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