[EM] Notes on a few Later-no-harm methods

Richard Lung voting at ukscientists.com
Sun May 22 12:48:18 PDT 2022


Hello Andy,

these are my free 2 booklets on binomial stv, of about 1500 words and 
3500 words. They are versions of the hand count; short approximations.

RL.

Smashwords – Elect and Exclude. Binomial STV Hand Count Basics – a book 
by Richard Lung <https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1111349>

Smashwords – The Super-Vote Supercharged: Binomial STV elections Hand 
Count – a book by Richard Lung 
<https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1106292>


On 22/05/2022 17:57, Andy Dienes wrote:
> Could you provide a complete and correct worked example in this thread?
>
> 50,000 words is a lot to parse through just to understand the 
> mechanism of a proposal.
>
> On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 11:47 AM Richard Lung 
> <voting at ukscientists.com> wrote:
>
>
>     Hello Andy,
>
>     these are my free 2 booklets and one book on binomial stv, varying
>     from about 1500 words to 50,000 words. Tho only part two of the
>     book, describes the (almost) complete working.
>
>     RL.
>
>     Smashwords – Elect and Exclude. Binomial STV Hand Count Basics – a
>     book by Richard Lung <https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1111349>
>
>     Smashwords – The Super-Vote Supercharged: Binomial STV elections
>     Hand Count – a book by Richard Lung
>     <https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1106292>
>
>     Smashwords – FAB STV: Four Averages Binomial Single Transferable
>     Vote. – a book by Richard Lung
>     <https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/806030>
>
>
>
>     On 21/05/2022 18:25, Andy Dienes wrote:
>>     Hi Richard,
>>
>>     I, too, have had a hard time understanding exactly what are the
>>     mechanics of Binomial STV. I have read your full posts, and I
>>     think it would clear it up for me if you would indeed give a
>>     "shut up and calculate" worked example of the type that Kristofer
>>     has sent. Please, without the philosophy and motivation for the
>>     method interspersed, just walk through the calculation of winners
>>     for Binomial STV the same way a computer program would.
>>
>>     -Andy
>>
>>     On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 3:57 AM Richard Lung
>>     <voting at ukscientists.com> wrote:
>>
>>         Thank you, Kristofer,
>>
>>         I refer you to the post as a whole, not just the first couple
>>         of lines,
>>         for my answer.
>>
>>         It's not just a matter of "shut up and calculate" to quote a
>>         famous
>>         grouse of hapless quantum theory students.
>>
>>         (You make me suspect you are an instructor. However, I
>>         appreciate your
>>         consideration and competance.)
>>
>>         Regards,
>>
>>         Richard Lung.
>>
>>
>>         On 16/05/2022 10:13, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
>>         > On 16.05.2022 08:20, Richard Lung wrote:
>>         >>
>>         >> Binomial STV is later no harm, unlike Borda count, because
>>         uses keep
>>         >> values , equivalent to Gregory method, for both election
>>         and exclusion
>>         >> counts.
>>         > I would like to check that for myself. That's why I've
>>         asked (three
>>         > times) if you could give me the concrete keep and exclude
>>         values, and
>>         > the winners, for particular example elections involving
>>         truncation.
>>         >
>>         > Could you please do that?
>>         >
>>         > -km
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