[EM] Vote for & vs; 2nd order PR

Richard Lung voting at ukscientists.com
Mon Sep 19 05:38:31 PDT 2016


To all,
My innovation of Binomial STV should exclude least liked candidates, who 
win thru, by split voting, or whatever.
The voters make a ranked choice but have an incentive to put Trump or 
Hillary in last position, if they actively dislike them, because the bi- 
in binomial STV stands for a rational exclusion count of the preferences 
reversed, as well as a rational election count of the preferences.
In the simplest case (first order binomial STV), the election keep 
values and the (inverted) exclusion keep values of each candidate are 
(geometrically) averaged. (This is an extension of Meek STV by including 
quota-deficit as well as quota-surplus keep values for every candidate.)
The Binomial STV order of average keep values (lowest first) is the 
order of preference, for candidates, by the whole community. Binomial 
STV should work for a single vacancy, the candidate with lowest keep 
value (provided it is below unity) being the winner.
If no candidate makes the quota (meaning no keep value equal to or below 
unity) that means the required number of quotas for vacancies have been 
filled by abstention votes (complete or partial) which are also counted 
with Binomial STV. With this system voters could just state their first 
few, and last few, preferences, leaving the middle preferences blank. 
They would all be counted.

Re. 2nd order PR of the executive.
Several EM members suggested ways to fill a proportionally represented 
executive.
Binomial STV should also settle the members of the government. It is 
simply the lowest keep values, up to the number of executive posts. The 
relative importance of the government posts can be matched to the keep 
value order (subject to negotiation between representatives).
The first five lowest keep values might elect an inner cabinet, with the 
lowest keep value candidate as premier, or first among equals.
Binomial transferable voting could elect, to the executive, the more 
prefered of all the prefered representatives to the legislature. The 
non-executive representatives, in effect form a critical opposition in 
the legislature. The legislators have the chance to prove themselves 
against their more popular colleagues in power.
To a lesser extent, this scenario should be possible with a traditional, 
less sophisticated form of STV.

Its advantage over the MMP (Mixed Member Proportional) system is 
illustrated by Germany, where a PR executive has formed as a grand 
coalition of the Social Democrats and the Christian Democrats. This has 
left opposition to minor parties, and encouraged opposition support for 
so-called extremist parties, using violent activism as a means of 
getting opposition heard.

from
Richard Lung.



On 19/09/2016 07:54, Jan Kok wrote:
>
> When you vote for someone for president, you are saying, "/This/ is 
> who I want to run our country. And I want more candidates like this in 
> the future!"
>
>
> What if you don't like either Clinton or Trump? There are 20 other 
> candidates on the ballot in Colorado, including Gary Johnson and Jill 
> Stein, the Libertarian and Green party candidates. Both Johnson and 
> Stein will be on the ballot in all or most states.
>
>
> "But if I don't vote for the lesser evil, the greater evil may win." 
> Here's how to free yourself from that trap: Find someone who is 
> politically opposite from you. Form a pact with that person, that 
> neither of you will vote for Clinton or Trump. You are then free to 
> vote for whomever you really prefer, and at the same time you take 
> away one vote each from Clinton and Trump. In order to ensure that the 
> other person doesn't cheat, fill out absentee ballots together, or go 
> to the polls together, and check each other's ballots.
>
>
> Is that too much trouble? If you feel that way, why even bother to 
> vote at all?
>
>
> This idea is promoted by VotePact.org. If all the disaffected 
> Democrats and Republicans would follow this strategy, the effect on 
> this and future elections would be "yuge!" Help spread the word!
>
>
>
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