[EM] Let's clear up some confusion

Juho Laatu juho4880 at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Oct 3 00:25:06 PDT 2012


You explanation sounds like a pretty regular ranked ballot approach. If I rank U and V second, I want them to lose to the firsts and win the rest.

Juho


On 3.10.2012, at 6.06, Michael Ossipoff wrote:

> Juho:
> 
> In improved Condorcet, the voter who equal top ranks X and Y, or who
> equal bottom ranks W and Z, doesn't have any more power to vote one
> over the other, or to not do so, than any otther voter has to vote one
> candidate over the other or no do so.
> 
> Nor does a vote for X over Y, or for Y over X, counted for the ballot
> of a voter top ranking X and Y, have any more power or effect as a
> pairwise vote cast by any voter between any two candidates.
> Likewise for the equal bottom ranking voter who ranks W and Z at
> bottom. ("at bottom" means not voted over anyone).
> 
> So then, what makes Improved Condorcet different from unimproved
> Condorcet?  How is it more favorable to the equal top or equal bottom
> ranking voter, without giving undue power to that voter?:
> 
> With respect to X and Y, hir ballot is counted in hir beat interest,
> in keeping with hir preferences, intent and wishes.
> 
> As for what that means, I'll say it again:
> 
> If you rank X and Y both in 1st place, that means that you'd rather
> elect one of them (either one of them) than anyone whom you don't rank
> in 1st place.
> 
> If you rank W and Z at bottom, that means that you'd rather elect
> anyone whom you rank above bottom, instead of W or Z.
> 
> Mike Ossipoff
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