[EM] Enhanced DMC
fsimmons at pcc.edu
fsimmons at pcc.edu
Fri Aug 12 15:12:19 PDT 2011
> From: "C.Benham"
> To: election-methods-electorama.com at electorama.com
> Subject: [EM] Enhanced DMC
> Forest,
> The "D" in DMC used to stand for *Definite*.
Yeah, that's what we finally settled on.
>
> I like (and I think I'm happy to endorse) this Condorcet method
> idea,
> and consider it to be clearly better than regular DMC
>
> Could this method give a different winner from the ("Approval
> Chain
> Building" ?) method you mentioned in the "C//A" thread (on 11
> June 2011)?
Yes, I'll give an example when I get more time. But for all practical purposes they both pick the highest approval Smith candidate.
>
> >Initialize a variable X to be the candidate with the most approval.
> >
> >While X is covered, let the new value of X be the highest
> approval candidate that covers the old X.
> >
> >Elect the final value of X.
> >
> >For all practical purposes this is just a seamless version of
> C//A, i.e. it avoids the apparent
> >abandonment of Condorcet in favor of Approval after testing for
> a CW.
> >
> >
> >Assuming cardinal ballots, candidate A covers candidate B, iff
> whenever B is rated above C on more
> >ballots than not, the same is true for A, and (additionally) A
> beats (in this same pairwise sense) some
> >candidate that B does not.
> >
> >
>
> Your newer suggestion ("enhanced DMC") seems to have an
> easier-to-explain and justify motivation.
>
> Chris Benham
>
>
> Forest Simmons wrote (12 July 2011):
>
> >One of the main approaches to Democratic Majority Choice was
> through the idea that if X beats Y and
> >also has greater approval than Y, then Y should not win.
> >
> >If we disqualify all that are beaten pairwise by someone with
> greater approval, then the remaining set P
> >is totally ordered by approval in one direction, and by
> pairwise defeats in the other direction. DMC
> >solves this quandry by giving pairwise defeat precedence over
> approval score; the member of P that
> >beats all of the others pairwise is the DMC winner.
> >
> >The trouble with this solution is that the DMC winner is always
> the member off P with the least approval
> >score. Is there some reasonable way of choosing from P that
> could potentially elect any of its members?
> >
> >My idea is based on the following observation:
> >
> >There is always at least one member of P, namely the DMC
> winner, i.e. the lowest approval member of
> >P, that is not covered by any member of P.
> >
> >So why not elect the highest approval member of P that is not
> covered by any member of P?
> >
> >By this rule, if the approval winner is uncovered it will win.
> If there are five members of P and the upper
> >two are covered by members of the lower three, but the third
> one is covered only by candidates outside
> >of P (if any), then this middle member of P is elected.
> >
> >What if this middle member X is covered by some candidate Y
> outside of P? How would X respond to
> >the complaint of Y, when Y says, "I beat you pairwise, as well
> as everybody that you beat pairwise, so
> >how come you win instead of me?"
> >
> >Candidate X can answer, "That's all well and good, but I had
> greater approval than you, and one of my
> >buddies Z from P beat you both pairwise and in approval. If Z
> beat me in approval, then I beat Z pairwise,
> >and somebody in P covers Z. If you were elected, both Z and
> the member of P that covers Z would have
> >a much greater case against you than you have against me."
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