[EM] Why I Think Sincere Cycles are Extremely Unlikely in Practice
Juho
juho4880 at yahoo.co.uk
Sun Nov 14 03:00:32 PST 2010
On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Venzke wrote:
> --- En date de : Ven 12.11.10, fsimmons at pcc.edu <fsimmons at pcc.edu> a
> écrit :
>> If sincere cycles are extremely
>> unlikely in practice, then the best Condorcet method is the
>> one that most
>> effectively discourages artificial cycles.
>
> But this is a huge statement. What if the Condorcet method that most
> effectively discourages artificial cycles, also discourages
> nomination?
> Or gives politically unacceptable results? Or has a clone problem?
>
> What if it were the case that *no* Condorcet method, in practice,
> suffers
> from artificial cycles?
I agree that performance with sincere votes is also critical. If one
assumes that in some election strategic voting is marginal, then the
best Condorcet method is the one that picks the best winner. In this
situation all the strategy related criteria need not be considered.
On the other hand we know that all Condorcet methods are vulnerable at
least to the burying strategy. In many/most elections there is no
working strategy available, and typically the dynamic nature and
uncertainty in the elections and opinions make efficient and rational
implementation of strategies impossible. But still there are cases
where some strategy might improve the utility of the expected outcome
from the strategists' point of view. In that case successful use of
some strategy could be more harmful to the society (especially if one
can show that the sincere winner was changed by a rational strategy to
a less wanted winner) than the possibility that the election method
does not pick the best winner (possibly due to using a method that is
optimized to defend against strategies and not to pick the best
sincere winner).
In such cases (or if people start using some irrational strategies
extensively) one should apply sufficient defensive means to make the
method work in the given (strategic) environment (despite of making
the performance with sincere votes worse). It is also possible that
one has to give up use of Condorcet methods altogether if the problems
are too big.
Unfortunately Condorcet methods have not been used widely in
(typically political) competitive elections and in societies with lots
of potential for strategic behaviour. In the less competitive
environments where Condorcet methods have been used I'm not aware of
any problems with strategic voting. Condorcet methods are in general
very good against strategic voting since there are no obvious tricks
that voters could always or often apply to get "better" results. The
best strategic recommendation is in most cases (in practice maybe
close to always) to vote sincerely.
For these reasons I'd expect Condorcet to work very well in most
societies also in political elections. In order to prepare also for
the situations where strategic voting does not pose a significant
threat, also serious discussion on the performance (benefits,
problems) of different Condorcet methods with sincere votes would be
very welcome, in addition to the analysis of the different strategic
weaknesses and strengths of the different Condorcet methods. The point
thus is that there is a wide range of environments where the election
methods can be used. In the case of Condorcet methods one might often
need also the other end, i.e. the one where the voters (or sufficient
majority of them) tend to vote sincerely.
Juho
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