[EM] My Favorite Deterministic Condorcet Efficient Method: TACC
C.Benham
cbenhamau at yahoo.com.au
Sat Nov 13 11:20:12 PST 2010
Regarding my example
31: A>B
32: B>C
37: C>A
Forest:
>
> >I've come around to the belief that most Condorcet cycles in
> ordinary elections
> >are artificial, so chances are that this cycle was created from
> the burial of B
> >by the C faction. Giving C the win only rewards this manipulation.
>
>
> Chris:
> I can't see any remotely rational justification for assuming
> that this is the case
> rather than, say, the cycle was created by the A voters burying C.
Forest:
> Well, usually the largest faction is the one with the best chance of
> getting away with it, and would get
> away with it under Beatpath, Ranked pairs, etc. unless the Condorcet
> supporters took defensive action.
> With TACC no defensive action was necessary.
>
> Now let's consider the possibility that you suggest, namely that the
> true preferences were
31 A>C
32 B>C
37 C>A
> If there is enough information for the A faction to think it is safe
> to bury C, then there is enough
> information for the C faction to take the precaution of truncating A
> defensively.
>
> The we have
31 A>B
32 B>C
37 C
> That's why I think this scenario is less likely than the one I suggested.
Chris:
Yes, but only somewhat. This all assumes that the A faction's pairwise
preferences are all about equally
strong, that accurate pre-poll data is available to all the factions,
and that the C faction voters are strategically
minded.
It is nothing like a sufficient counter to my original central point,
that on the ballots as voted C is the strongest
candidate and solidly dominates the TACC winner A.
Interpreting the ballots as 3-slot ratings, C has the highest Approval
score and the the highest Top-Ratings
score. And C pairwise beats A
Let me modify my example to further strengthen C and weaken A:
25: A>B ("sincere" is A)
06: A>C
32: B>C
27: C>A
10: C
Approvals: B57, A58, C75. ("Top-Ratings" as before).
A>B 58-32, B>C 57-43, C>A 69-31.
TACC still elects A.
C is the "sincere CW". C's voted pairwise defeat is the weakest (as
measured by both Winning Votes and
Margins) while A's is (by those same measures) is the strongest.
Chris Benham
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