[EM] piling on against IRV

[Jonathan Lundell]

On May 11, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Jameson Quinn wrote:

> 2010/5/9 Jonathan Lundell <jlundell at pobox.com>
> On May 9, 2010, at 8:57 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
> 
> > how about expanding the definition of Later-No-Harm (can we find a name for it?) to include later harming one's political interest (not *just* their favorite candidate) by sincerely voting their conscience?
> 
> That's called 'manipulability', and good luck finding a method that avoids it (short of random selection, of course).
> 
> Sure. But you can minimize it. I touched on that in my "8 of 9: fairness" post. Basically, you want to minimize the average utility gained by strategic voters, and maximize the dishonesty required to gain that utility (because the dishonesty is also the risk of strategy).

I agree. I think.

I have more to say on the meta-criteria subject, and will get around to saying it. It's a valuable discussion. Thanks for raising it.
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