[EM] IRV vs Plurality

[Kathy Dopp]

> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:40:09 -0500
> From: robert bristow-johnson <rbj at audioimagination.com>
> To: EM Methods <election-methods at lists.electorama.com>
> Subject: Re: [EM] IRV vs Plurality
>
> unlike you, Kathy, i'm a lifelong student.  and, at 54, i've also

Hey Yet ANOTHER (count them) WRONG FANTASY about me that you've cooked
up inside your own head.

I have another lesson for you that you will probably ignore, like all
the rest. If you want to know the facts about someone else ASK THEM.
I.e. If ideas pop into your head about someone, your ideas may or may
*not* be correct, and the way to check the reality of your own
imagination is to ASK the other person about whom you continually
fabricate new fantasies or imaginary ideas about.

I am currently a Ph.D. student in political science after getting a
master's degree in mathematics.  I went back to college to get a Ph.D.
after getting tired of having Ph.D. professors replicate my work on
post-election auditing without citing my work and were incompetently
misleading people on how to do post-election audits.

> seen a few things and dealt with systems of significant complexity
> (and gotten paid for it).  one of my favorite contributions i like to
> make to the scholarly pile is to cut through unnecessary complexity
> and boil something down to the kernel of the issue.  for audio signal
> processing geeks, an example that's public-domain is http://
> www.musicdsp.org/files/EQ-Coefficients.pdf which has later become
> http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Audio-EQ-Cookbook.txt and has about
> 6900 references on the web and 1000 in Google Scholar (none that i
> know of are negative references).  i dunno how many hits i get in
> Google Scholar, far less than a "real" academic.  i just checked and
> it's 9 more hits than you get Kathy.

Well I guess you are one-up in that regard then in the little pissing
contest you're having between yourself and your imaginary fabrications
about myself then. Congratulations.

>
> it's *you* that do not get it, Kathy.  neither quantitative nor
> qualitatively.

ha ha. Thanks for the laugh.

>
> and you're not very forthright, either.  you said earlier that you

Another hopelessly inaccurate fantasy.

Try to get this through your head. I do not live inside your head or
inside your imagination. I am living out here, in the real world which
is not restrained to your own imagination. If you want to expand your
own world, try learning about the world as others experience it rather
than trying to project your tiny illogical imagination where just
because people oppose IRV/STV you imagine that they are advocates of
FPTP and other hopelessly illogical ideas out in a spew of nonsense
and nastiness.

Try to get this through your head too.  It is *not* necessary to
belittle others, have a pissing contest with others, or put others
down in a derogatory fashion in order to build yourself up. We can all
rise together.

Try to get this through your head. I am **not** remotely like you are
and every time you add to the list of negative fabrications about me
that you've spewed, you reveal what is inside your imagination, not
one iota about me.

For instance, when I make an error, I almost immediately notice it and
correct it and immediately publicly admit it, just like I did today.

I can learn from anyone, even when the vast majority of what they say
is utter nonsense, as I did today from you.

I do not live inside your head or inside your imagination. I am very
very very different than you are, despite your repeatedly accusing me
of being like you are by projecting what is inside your head rather
than asking me.

> weren't attached to any partisan party (and given your definition,
> you meant like Dems and GOPs and Progs).  i've just been to http://
> kathydopp.com .  it says you're a Greenie.  you implied earlier that
> you had no party affiliation (and here i was only accusing you of
> being a rabid anti-IRV partisan) and that was not true.  your

TWO MORE FALSE claims about me (You never cease.)

1. I specifically said that I was affiliated with a party and asked
you to guess which one.

2. I am no longer affiliated with the Green party, but another party.
Sorry that page is out of date.

> credibility just took a nasty hit.  now we're gonna have to verify
> *every* claim you make that isn't ostensibly taken for granted.

Try to imagine this. I am **not** like you are.

I am no longer going to bother reading any more of your emails with
their plethora of fabrications and fantasies and delusional claims
asserting that illogical, obviously incorrect formulas are not so.  It
is a waste of my time.

I can only hope that you have learned something from this exchange,
despite your showing no evidence of that.

Perhaps you can sleep on it and figure it out while you sleep or in
ensuing days, and become wise enough someday to ask questions to
verify your imagination and actually consider and think reflectively
about what others are trying to help you understand.



Kathy Dopp

Town of Colonie, NY 12304
phone 518-952-4030
cell 518-505-0220

http://utahcountvotes.org
http://electionmathematics.org
http://kathydopp.com/serendipity/

Realities Mar Instant Runoff Voting
http://electionmathematics.org/ucvAnalysis/US/RCV-IRV/InstantRunoffVotingFlaws.pdf

Voters Have Reason to Worry
http://utahcountvotes.org/UT/UtahCountVotes-ThadHall-Response.pdf

Checking election outcome accuracy --- Post-election audit sampling
http://electionmathematics.org/em-audits/US/PEAuditSamplingMethods.pdf