[EM] Utah Republican Party Scraps IRV Voting Method

[Kathy Dopp]

I've answered that question on this list before and Abd ul also answered it.

There are *many* good alternative voting methods that do solve the
spoiler problem, are monotonic, and elect majority winners and are
precinct summable. I don't know of any alternative voting methods as
bad as IRV/STV (although there must be one somewhere), so I would
probably support almost any alternative method that lacks the
multitude of flaws that IRV/STV have.  Abd ul has convinced me that
regular top-two runoffs are good too.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:50 PM, robert bristow-johnson
<rbj at audioimagination.com> wrote:
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> On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Kathy Dopp wrote:
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>> Nice to know someone has some common sense to scrap IRV voting.  I
>> found out that NYC tried IRV in the 1930s and scrapped it too. Also
>> Burlington VT and Aspen CO have ongoing efforts to scrap it
>
> *some* people in Burlington VT.  don't assume (until Town Meeting Day, March
> 2) that they speak for the electorate of the city.
>
> we'll see.
>
> Kathy, you *still* haven't responded to my question of 10 weeks ago.  ever
> plan to?
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> On Oct 31, 2009, at 12:18 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
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>> On Oct 31, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Kathy Dopp wrote:
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>>> 5. It always amazes me how irrationally the supporters of IRV/STV
>>> support a nonmonotonic system that creates more problems than it
>>> solves when there are clearly better alternatives available that
>>> actually solve more problems than they create.
>>
>> so, Kathy, i am curious as to which of these better alternatives you
>> promote?
>
> i'm still interested in your answer.
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> r b-j                  rbj at audioimagination.com
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> "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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Kathy Dopp

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Realities Mar Instant Runoff Voting
http://electionmathematics.org/ucvAnalysis/US/RCV-IRV/InstantRunoffVotingFlaws.pdf

Voters Have Reason to Worry
http://utahcountvotes.org/UT/UtahCountVotes-ThadHall-Response.pdf

Checking election outcome accuracy --- Post-election audit sampling
http://electionmathematics.org/em-audits/US/PEAuditSamplingMethods.pdf