[EM] I need an example of Condorcet method being subjected

[Kathy Dopp]

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Jonathan Lundell <jlundell at pobox.com> wrote:
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> Arrow never used, never mind defined, the word "spoiler".
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That is true. Back in Arrow's day, the word spoiler was not used, but
Arrow exactly and broadly describes the spoiler condition as one of
his fairness criteria.  Study this to understand and was easy to find
using google on "Arrow's Fairness Criteria"

http://www.ctl.ua.edu/math103/Voting/whatdowe.htm#The%20Independence%20of%20Irrelevant%20Alternatives%20Criterion

This reminds me of one of the plethora of other deliberately
misleading claims of Fairytale Vote, they constantly cite Arrow's
theorem as if that is a logical reason to support IRV when IRV fails
more of Arrow's Fairness criteria than even plurality voting does
because IRV fails the nonmonotoncity criteria in addition to the
spoiler criteria described above which both IRV and plurality fail.

Fairytale Vote might be able to fool some of the people all the time,
but cannot fool all of the people all of the time like it would like
to.  Fairytale Vote redefines the spoiler condition to be only
spoilers (nonwinning candidates whose presence in the election change
who would otherwise win) who have small support among voters --
another very clever trick on their part to mislead the public into
thinking that IRV is an improvement over plurality, even though it is
much much worse and deprives voters of fundamental fairness and voting
rights and eviscerates the ability of the public to oversee the
integrity and accuracy of election outcomes.



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Realities Mar Instant Runoff Voting
http://electionmathematics.org/ucvAnalysis/US/RCV-IRV/InstantRunoffVotingFlaws.pdf

Voters Have Reason to Worry
http://utahcountvotes.org/UT/UtahCountVotes-ThadHall-Response.pdf

Checking election outcome accuracy --- Post-election audit sampling
http://electionmathematics.org/em-audits/US/PEAuditSamplingMethods.pdf