[EM] I need an example of Condorcet method being subjected

[Jonathan Lundell]

On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Kathy Dopp wrote:

> Start telling the truth about IRV at Fairytale Vote, and then when
> people speak the truth about Fairytale Vote, it won't sound like a
> "smear".

Ha ha! I've been meaning to compliment you, Ms Dopp, on that sidesplitting line. It was really funny the first time, and it's gotten more hilarious each time you've used it since. How many times? I've lost count, to tell the truth, but please keep it up. Fairytale! Fantastic! I can't get enough.

> 
> If you don't like the sound of your own behavior when retold, try some
> different behavior, rather than falsely accusing others of "smearing"
> you when they tell the truth. The list of deliberate misinformation
> told by the Fairytale Vote group, if put together in one place, would
> reach to the moon most likely, as this one youtube video alludes to.
> Experts in election methods have had occasions to debunk the
> disinformation by Fairytale Vote sufficiently to know that.

Three times in one post. Just in case we readers don't get it the first or second time--the mark of a master comic. Thanks!

> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCS-zWuel8
> 
> So continue to alter the definitions of commonly used words in order
> to make yourself "right" because that's the only way you can do that
> Terry.
> 
> Your definition of "spoiler" alters the definition that was given by
> Arrow's theorem which is the one I choose to use,

Arrow never used, never mind defined, the word "spoiler".

> not the narrower one
> your organization uses in order to make the false claim that IRV
> solves the spoiler problem even though it obviously does not, and the
> Republican candidate acted as a spoiler to knock out the most popular
> Democratic candidate so that their least favorite, the left wing
> Progressive could win.
> 
> Terry, just do not imagine that people do not see the "trick" you use
> of redefining words that have had a common meaning for decades.