[EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

[Jonathan Lundell]

On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Raph Frank wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Juho <juho4880 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> You assume that there is only one VP.
> 
> Well, if more than 1 VP is possible, then the election could be
> 
> - Elect council with PR-STV
> - The condorcet winner (only including the councillors) is President
> - Elect 2 of the councilors as VPs using PR-STV
> 
> However, there is still the question of what exactly the VPs and
> President is supposed to do.
> 
> If they are to chair council meetings, then it is better to just elect them.
> 
>> We could have also two and keep track
>> of which members are elected first, second and third.
> 
> I still disagree with using order of election in a PR-STV election.
> It provides an additional incentive for dishonest rankings.

It also encourages strategic nominations. The whole idea of using order-of-election in STV for *anything* should be drowned in a bathtub ASAP.

> 
> It would have most of the same problems that plurality has where you
> need to vote for one of the top-2.