[EM] What does "proportional representation" MEAN? And list of known PR methods (know any more?)
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abd at lomaxdesign.com
Tue Nov 17 18:54:48 PST 2009
At 01:03 PM 11/17/2009, Raph Frank wrote:
>I am not sure referring to "racism" is a good plan :).
The word "racist" was used. A more politically correct term would be
"factionally affiliated" or "factionally dedicated."
>Something like
>
>"Any group representing more than N/M of the voters, where M is the
>number of seats to be filled, must be able to guarantee that N of
>their candidates are elected (assuming they run enough candidates)".
>
>I think all PR methods meet this (as it is the Hare quota).
Because Asset Voting is a system which can create an electoral
college that elects the assembly, I prefer the Hare quota, but, of
course, this leaves the question of dregs: after all the seats are
assigned from candidates who are elected and the easy vote transfers
are done, there may be votes which "belong" to candidates not elected
and they are having difficulty finding a suitable compromise. If any
votes are left unused, of course, there is then a vacant seat, and,
less likely, more than one vacant seat. Is it necessary to fill this seat?
The importance of it is not necessarily clear. The Election Science
Foundation is currently used Asset Voting, experimentally, to select
a steering committee of three members. It's pretty unlikely that more
than one seat would remain unallocated if the Hare quota is used, but
one empty seat is reasonably possible. That represents what could be
approaching one-third of members who aren't represented. Now, if
direct voting on issues is allowed -- if this is to become a board of
a corporation, there could be some legal problems with both direct
voting and the possibility of unequal voting powers, but
decision-making is a separate issue from voting and voting method,
per se -- and if the members of the unrepresented group still have a
means to bring some matter to the attention of the "short committee,"
it's not particularly harmful. Decisions could require, I believe, a
majority of the board, which with two members requires unanimity.
That, again, might not be harmful. The organization is proposing to
have a separate presiding officer who would be elected by the
committee, and who could vote to break ties. So, again, it would take
unanimity to elect this officer, so the officer is likely to
represent a compromise who would satisfy at least two-thirds of the
members. Not bad.
But it would be better if the remaining voters are represented. So
what happens if we use the Droop quota? We end up with a
single-winner election for that last seat, with the voters being
those who are unrepresented plus excess votes from those elected.
This member of the board might represent a fairly small number of
voters, but gets equal voting power (normally). This is the reason I
prefer the Hare quota, it's exact, every member elected does
represent a specific group of voters, the same as the quota, with the
same percentage of voting power in the committee. And then the
elected board can make whatever special rules it finds appropriate to
secure representation for the remaining voters. It can even, as I'd
implement Asset, pick an entirely new candidate, who was not on the
ballot. Ideally, for that last seat, it would maximize
representation, encouraging a broad compromise among the remaining
voters, and it could be flexible. The quota could be adjusted down
for the last seat, but that lowering could also be restricted so that
disparity of representation doesn't exceed a limit. There is little
harm if a small faction has a slightly higher voting power; by
definition in our problem here, it is a small faction that can only
exercise power through coalition, and if the disparity is limited, it
would, in a practical sense, not have true excess power, because
actual voting is limited.
The goal in an elected committee or assembly, as I see it, is to
fairly represent as much of the electorate as possible. When the
number of seats is small, that becomes quite important, how that last
seat is chosen. With a hundred seats, it wouldn't be so important
but, on the other hand, an assembly with a hundred seats is pretty
large, it really needs to function through a (sub)committee system,
direct meeting for most business becomes too cumbersome.
Normally, supermajority of a deliberative body can change or suspend
the rules. So ... rules could provide that, say, two-thirds of the
assembly (full size, so this is an absolute supermajority based on
the full assembly assuming all seats had been elected) can determine
how the last seat is chosen, within certain simple parameters
designed to prevent serious abuse. Note, however, that if two-thirds
of any body with power wants to abuse, it can. Period. An absolute
majority can, not merely a supermajority, that's the "Nuclear Option"
in the U.S. Senate. And the nuclear option has never been exercised,
to my knowledge, because of the recognized damage to the traditions
of the Senate. It was bad enough that the Senate changed the cloture
rule from two-thirds to three-fifths, that was a small loss for
democracy. Even though the purpose was apparently "noble." The road
to hell is paved with noble intentions....
The goal, as I see it, of the committee's process in choosing the
final seat (or seats, with a larger assembly) would be to maximize
representation, so that as many members of the society as possible
think of the committee as "their committee," and feel represented on
it by someone they chose, directly or indirectly. Not having that
last seat be automatically assigned provides incentive for those
voters to compromise, to find someone they all -- or almost all --
can accept as their common representative. It does not paralyze the
asssembly, which can begin to conduct business with an empty seat. It
simply needs a somewhat larger majority, in effect. With a 3-person
nominal size, 2 elected, it needs unanimity among the two. If two
people representing two-thirds of an organization can't find
agreement on important things, the organization is in serious trouble
and needs to address *that* problem. In addition, there are likely
some left-over votes from the election of the two. These voters don't
have specific representation, in the sense of an assigned seat
elected with their vote, but they are still defacto represented by
someone who has the power to insist on no action without his or her
consent. That's not shabby, and it points out that the two-thirds I
mentioned is probably more than two-thirds.
I'm suggesting that the Election Science Foundation use the Hare
quota, initially, because it gets the committee going, and the
committee can go ahead and elect a presiding officer; I think that
the goal was that the presiding officer not be one of the members of
the committee. Whomever the two elect could have been elected anyway
regardless of the vote of the third. No harm is done. When the bylaws
are written the committee can be specifically charged with the task
of maximizing representation on the committee, which is seriously
advantageous to the organization. The biggest loss of support for
organizations is from members who feel left out, who have no say in
how the organization proceeds. Not everyone wants that say, but
everyone appreciates the *possibility* of having a say. And when a
decision comes up that turns out to be important to the member, it
matters very much.
What if the Center for Proportional Representation had, as Clay
Shentrup is fond of saying, "eaten its own dog food," and set up a
membership structure with ... proportional representation on a
steering committee. Where would FairVote be today?
It's possible, indeed, that there would be less usage of IRV for
single-winner elections, but it's also possible that a democratic
Center would influenced deeper changes, would have wider support from
academics and experts on voting systems, or would be on its way.
Instead, the CPR was formed as a lobbying group with a tight core in
control, classic political structure, solicited funds, eventually set
up staff, etc., and these things take on a life of their own.
From my understanding of the history, some or maybe even many of
those who were involved in the founding meeting ended up out in the
cold, as a political strategy developed to implement IRV because it
used the same expensive voting system as used for STV-PR. Thus, it
was apparently thought, we'd be one step closer to PR. In addition,
there are a few deluded individuals who do imagine that IRV is a
decent single-winner system, but, unfortunately, pursuing this
will-o-the-wisp, they are damaging the most advanced voting system in
wide use: top two runoff. Top two runoff with some tweaks would be an
extraordinarily powerful voting system. For example, if write-ins are
allowed (they are in some places, such as California by default), and
if the runoff is, say, Bucklin, Condorcet failure should be very,
very rare. It might never happen. Bucklin is much better than IRV at
finding a true majority, because it counts all the votes, discarding
none. IRV, in nonpartisan elections that go to runoff, and with a
substantial candidate field (perhaps more than three) almost never
finds a majority. Bucklin may pick up about half of these, avoiding
half the runoffs if a majority is required.
In fact, the lessons of history have been overlooked. There was
widespread implementation of preferential voting in the U.S. in the
first two decades of the twentieth century, and some of these systems
survived into the forties, I think. Only Cambridge, with its PR
council, remained. Those implementations included Bucklin and IRV,
and they all were swept away. By what? My impression is, generally,
top two runoff. It was discovered that preferential voting wasn't
living up to its promise to find majorities without runoff elections.
Apparently, after a time, most voters don't add additional
preferences. Lewis Carroll could have told them this would happen in
the 1880s. That's why he invented Asset. By being oversold,
preferential voting was later rejected. And that's exactly what
FairVote has been setting up, and the reversals are starting to happen.
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