[EM] Election Goals & Methods - a review
Dave Ketchum
davek at clarityconnect.com
Sun Dec 6 15:29:03 PST 2009
Earlier I make the point that FPTP should not be used because it does
not let voters completely express their desires.
Here I add that Runoffs can try to recover from FPTP's failures, but
not necessarily succeed.
Knowing that Runoffs get used with other methods, where they may not
deserve their expense, I hint that this topic needs more thought than
I cover in detail here.
Now, on to your thoughts:
On Dec 6, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
> Dave Ketchum wrote:
>
>> Runoffs: Essential with FPTP unless one candidate receives a
>> majority vote, for there is too great a chance for best-liked to
>> not receive the most votes. Top-two runoff weakness is the chance
>> for FPTP to have seen true best-liked as third. Of less value for
>> methods that let voters better express their desires.
>
> You might want to add that the second round of the runoff is
> strategy free, as there are only two candidates. Thus a runoff may
> have advantages beyond other methods if people strategize a lot
> (e.g. in small council elections). The strategy would then involve
> making the "wrong" top two survive to the second round, so the first
> round would have to use a method that is fairly resistant to strategy.
"second round" seems to me to confuse more than help - but lets ignore
that for now.
Runoffs are simply a component of an election, so their not affecting
strategy problems in other components matters little.
>
> One (complicated) idea I've suggested earlier is to have a runoff
> with two Condorcet methods: the first surviving candidate is the
> winner of a good "honest voters'" method, while the second surviving
> candidate is the winner of a burial-resistant (though perhaps
> nonmonotonic, etc) method. If the voters are honest, the first
> winner prevails; if the voters strategize heavily, at least they can
> get no worse than what the second method provides.
A major goal is to make the election both understandable to voters and
requiring minimum effort from them.
What may not get said enough is that tempting a group to strategize
can tempt other groups to compete - for hopeless results.
>
> It's probably overkill for a public election, but might be useful in
> small or intermediate size scenarios.
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